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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 5579279" data-attributes="member: 23619">4E may be what you're looking for. They have a limited number of &quot;spells&quot; and many of them are &quot;at will&quot; powers, while others are able to be used a fixed number of times per encounter or per day.To address your specific points:1) This isn't so much an error in logic as it is an issue of game &quot;balance&quot;. If you have a 5th level group, you don't even need fighters really when you have unlimited Fireballs, Lightning Bolts, Fly, Dispel Magic, etc. Limiting spells was done to give others something to do, that and the theory is that it is harder to control and direct magical energy than it is to swing an axe or stab someone in the back!If you don't like the Vancian system of magic, then I would suggest you look into the (Revised) Elements of Magic system. I think you'd find that more appealing.2) This is another flub with 3.x edition. If you look at 2e, wizards actually EARNED xp by creating scrolls, new spells, etc. This is something that most DMs quickly did away with or ignored.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 5579279, member: 23619"] 4E may be what you're looking for. They have a limited number of "spells" and many of them are "at will" powers, while others are able to be used a fixed number of times per encounter or per day. To address your specific points: 1) This isn't so much an error in logic as it is an issue of game "balance". If you have a 5th level group, you don't even need fighters really when you have unlimited Fireballs, Lightning Bolts, Fly, Dispel Magic, etc. Limiting spells was done to give others something to do, that and the theory is that it is harder to control and direct magical energy than it is to swing an axe or stab someone in the back! If you don't like the Vancian system of magic, then I would suggest you look into the (Revised) Elements of Magic system. I think you'd find that more appealing. 2) This is another flub with 3.x edition. If you look at 2e, wizards actually EARNED xp by creating scrolls, new spells, etc. This is something that most DMs quickly did away with or ignored. [/QUOTE]

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