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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 3290885" data-attributes="member: 39394">Oh what the heck, I'll give it a try.I'd agree that Batman is very much lawful good.  The idea that he acts out of vengeance is completely incorrect.  He takes no pleasure in hurting criminals (usually) and has no desire to see them suffer.  Instead he's driven by a desire to see that no one else has to suffer as he has suffered, that no other little boy has his parents stolen away by the scourge of crime.  He doesn't care about punishing criminals so much as protecting innocent people from their depravations.  This, by the way, is why he finds Catwoman tolerable.  She may be a criminal, but she does not (at least, from a fantasy slightly unrealstic viewpoint) cause others to suffer through her thefts or disrupt the societal order.Batman is lawful in that he really and honestly believes in the right and ability of society to judge criminals.  Despite repeated failures, he always hands matters over to the forces of law the moment he has defused the situation to the level where they can handle it.  He is in regular contact with the police and often acts to assist them in their investigations.  (They have a special signalling device for the sole purpose of contacting him!)  He has a strong and strict code that he follows regarding what he will and won't do, and this code is largely based on what society finds to be permissible rather than something he just came up with himself.The arguement that he is chaotic mostly boils down to him being a vigilante who likes to handle problems on his own.  But again, he's a vigilante with the utmost respect for the law and society, and who is often showing disapproving of other vigilantes if he does not believe they will follow a strict code of behavior.  If it's possible for a vigilante to be lawful, Batman is lawful.No argument with Dick Tracy, and I think we just don't see enough of Indy's character to place him on the lawful/chaotic axis.  I guess he could be lawful good.Some people were asking, what did Fett do that was so horrible?  Well, he dragged a man back to a sure slow torture and death at the hands of a crime lord.  That's pretty evil.  I don't know if he's lawful; in general, I find you need to see a lot more examples of character behavior to determine law/chaos than you do good/evil.Magneto is probably lawful as he is all about assembling a society of mutants and convincing them to act as a group-  at least, in some characterizations.Starbuck is certainly chaotic.  Is she good in the D&D sense?  Maybe not quite.She's certainly not evil, but she doesn't spend a lot of time trying to help people whom she hasn't established a personal connection with.  She's not much one for acting on pure principle, and we rarely seeing her wrestling with deep ethical questions in an effort to do the right thing, as some of the other characters on the show do quite often.One could argue that she's putting her life on the line as a Viper pilot, and that's certainly true and a good act.  I think Kara is a Viper pilot because she loves flying, not out of a desire to protect the Fleet, though.I think I disagree with both parts of Al's alignment here.  Obviously he's an evil man who thinks nothing of murder to achieve his desires.  But more than that, Swearengen cares deeply about society and the furtherance of an organized social structure.  Most of his more beneficient acts can be traced to a desire to see the town of Deadwood prosper.Consider that it was Al who worked to see Deadwood annexed to a state.  It was Al who organized a town council of city leaders, Al who oversaw the selection of men to temporarily fill civic offices, and Al who demanded (and got) elections held.  I ask you, are these the actions of a chaotic man?I'd also agree that Sparrow is evil, though he at least is definitely chaotic.  He does have occasional impulse to neutrality, but is obviously skiled in surpressing his conscience.Riddick is evil too.  It's just that he developed some emotional attachments that caused him to act for people other than himself.  That doesn't make him not evil.  Just makes him human.</blockquote>

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