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<blockquote data-quote="marshaldwm" data-source="post: 1299363" data-attributes="member: 10745">Yes, a bonanza of new base classes. I was quite impressed with both books. As for specific thoughts, I do not really thing the Hexblade, Favored Soul or Healer are very impressive, all for different reasons. Hexblade mainly for survivability. Cruddy spells, horrible BAB progression and not much in thr way of good abilities for a few levels. Cool at 9+, but how do they live that long? As for Favored Souls, a great PRC, but as a base class, too odd. Healer, NPC is good, but I like my clerics to do a little more than machine gun heal all the time.Now the otehrs are fun. Yes, Swashbucker leading into Duelist is really very sweet. Perhaps the first truely survivable noarmor build. And the MArshal can give out some really nice bonuses at low levels. a +3 or +4 on all saves of one type at first level is awfully good. And at second adding in a bonus of +1 damage for ll characters all the time. Much nicer than bless.As for teh Samurai, I like him and I dislike him. One, his feat chains really do fit one version of the Samurai, though NO samurai used two blades historically. Could work in fantasy, though. As a plus, I like having two choices of Samurai for my upcoming OA game. Having OA samuai for one school, CW samuair for another school, and maybe even fighters disguised as samurai for another school. Really cool. Lots of good choices, I highly recommend both books.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="marshaldwm, post: 1299363, member: 10745"] Yes, a bonanza of new base classes. I was quite impressed with both books. As for specific thoughts, I do not really thing the Hexblade, Favored Soul or Healer are very impressive, all for different reasons. Hexblade mainly for survivability. Cruddy spells, horrible BAB progression and not much in thr way of good abilities for a few levels. Cool at 9+, but how do they live that long? As for Favored Souls, a great PRC, but as a base class, too odd. Healer, NPC is good, but I like my clerics to do a little more than machine gun heal all the time. Now the otehrs are fun. Yes, Swashbucker leading into Duelist is really very sweet. Perhaps the first truely survivable noarmor build. And the MArshal can give out some really nice bonuses at low levels. a +3 or +4 on all saves of one type at first level is awfully good. And at second adding in a bonus of +1 damage for ll characters all the time. Much nicer than bless. As for teh Samurai, I like him and I dislike him. One, his feat chains really do fit one version of the Samurai, though NO samurai used two blades historically. Could work in fantasy, though. As a plus, I like having two choices of Samurai for my upcoming OA game. Having OA samuai for one school, CW samuair for another school, and maybe even fighters disguised as samurai for another school. Really cool. Lots of good choices, I highly recommend both books. [/QUOTE]

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