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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1237105" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>A situation? For feather fall it is unlikely, but for other spells that have a casting time of 1 free action, perhaps it will be more likely to make sense.</p><p></p><p>And if nothing changes between the time you start and end a spell, you're doing it wrong. At the end of the spell, a spell effect occurs which usually has some effect on an environment. That effect was not there before the casting. It will be there after the casting.</p><p></p><p>As for changes before the spell casting begins and the time during which the spell is cast, the declaration of readied actions by others can disrupt these.</p><p></p><p>As a rather contrived, but possible, example: You want to cast an area dispel magic to remove the magical structure that you and an enemy is standing upon. You think your opponent (an archer) has readied an action, but you're not sure what it is. One possibility is that your opponent is readied to disrupt your next spell. Another possibility is that the enemy has readied an action to disrupt a spell after you destroy the structure (he knows that you know feather fall and is assuming that the falling damage will be worse for you than him.) If you cast the feather fall before the dispel magic, he might disrupt it and force you to either fall with him or no destroy the structure. If you cast it after the dispel magic, he might disrupt it and send you falling to your death. If you cast it *during* the casting of the dispel magic, he'd be less likely to disrupt it, though a very specific readied action might succeed if he knows enough about spellcasting.</p><p></p><p>In the end, it doesn't matter. There is one sentence which does clearly govern this situation in my games: The DM puts reasonable limits on what you can really do for free. With regards to the free action feint (the source of our discussion), any sensible DM would not allow it to be used repeatedly in a round, so this clause can be used by a sensible DM to close that hole.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 1237105, member: 2629"] A situation? For feather fall it is unlikely, but for other spells that have a casting time of 1 free action, perhaps it will be more likely to make sense. And if nothing changes between the time you start and end a spell, you're doing it wrong. At the end of the spell, a spell effect occurs which usually has some effect on an environment. That effect was not there before the casting. It will be there after the casting. As for changes before the spell casting begins and the time during which the spell is cast, the declaration of readied actions by others can disrupt these. As a rather contrived, but possible, example: You want to cast an area dispel magic to remove the magical structure that you and an enemy is standing upon. You think your opponent (an archer) has readied an action, but you're not sure what it is. One possibility is that your opponent is readied to disrupt your next spell. Another possibility is that the enemy has readied an action to disrupt a spell after you destroy the structure (he knows that you know feather fall and is assuming that the falling damage will be worse for you than him.) If you cast the feather fall before the dispel magic, he might disrupt it and force you to either fall with him or no destroy the structure. If you cast it after the dispel magic, he might disrupt it and send you falling to your death. If you cast it *during* the casting of the dispel magic, he'd be less likely to disrupt it, though a very specific readied action might succeed if he knows enough about spellcasting. In the end, it doesn't matter. There is one sentence which does clearly govern this situation in my games: The DM puts reasonable limits on what you can really do for free. With regards to the free action feint (the source of our discussion), any sensible DM would not allow it to be used repeatedly in a round, so this clause can be used by a sensible DM to close that hole. [/QUOTE]
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