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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1239993" data-attributes="member: 151">Well, the OA samurai's sacrifice is more signifcant under 3.5, since he has more DR to contend with, but that's neither here nor there.  The OA samurai and the CW samurai are aiming for different concepts, and the idea that either one doesn't model a kind of samurai is incorrect, to me.  What they both fail to do is model ALL samurai, and the OA version does a far better job as acting as a more generic version than the CW does.  The CW version is a perfectly viable Miyamoto Musashi in mechanical terms, but a terrible one in 'fluff' terms.  The OA samurai makes for a great Samurai Jack, but a terrible Zatoichi or Ashikaga Yoshimitsu .  The concept of the samurai ranges from mounted bowman to dedicated feudal warrior to lone swordsman to court diplomat.  Itto Ogami and Nobunaga Oda don't seem to fit that closely together, and I can see a place for mutliple core classes to do this, if my game were focused in such a way.  I think that if the class wasn't called a samurai, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  I don't see anyone really worked up over the Hexblade, for example.</blockquote>