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<blockquote data-quote="Morgenstern" data-source="post: 959058" data-attributes="member: 5485"><p>Working with a sort of 'renovation, not innovation' mindset, I'd expect the book to include some of the 'missing' 2nd ed classes. Possibly a cavalier or knight (taken from Dragonlance) and a Gladiator (derived from Dark Sun).</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, there are some concepts that work for base classes, and some that don't really require it. A "lightly armored, nimble fighter" might fit the bill, since some better choices of feats at low level to tide you over until you can join the Duelist PrC is one option, but a strong case can be made for needing different Saves and Class skills from the word go. MORE importantly, you can argue that low-level nimble fighters exist, and should have demonstable difference as early as 1st or 2nd level.</p><p></p><p>I have a harder time arguing that a low level "commander" should exist, or that such a character isn't covered by good feat selection and a <em>different</em> class. Take a bard for a level if you want to be a commander - you ain't strumming a lyre or singing love poems - you're barking orders at those maggots! Same mechanics (no, you're not as handy with a sword as the equivalent level grunt - you shouldn't be), flavoring that matches the vision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morgenstern, post: 959058, member: 5485"] Working with a sort of 'renovation, not innovation' mindset, I'd expect the book to include some of the 'missing' 2nd ed classes. Possibly a cavalier or knight (taken from Dragonlance) and a Gladiator (derived from Dark Sun). Ultimately, there are some concepts that work for base classes, and some that don't really require it. A "lightly armored, nimble fighter" might fit the bill, since some better choices of feats at low level to tide you over until you can join the Duelist PrC is one option, but a strong case can be made for needing different Saves and Class skills from the word go. MORE importantly, you can argue that low-level nimble fighters exist, and should have demonstable difference as early as 1st or 2nd level. I have a harder time arguing that a low level "commander" should exist, or that such a character isn't covered by good feat selection and a [i]different[/i] class. Take a bard for a level if you want to be a commander - you ain't strumming a lyre or singing love poems - you're barking orders at those maggots! Same mechanics (no, you're not as handy with a sword as the equivalent level grunt - you shouldn't be), flavoring that matches the vision. [/QUOTE]
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