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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 962891" data-attributes="member: 713"><p>Time to look at this from a slightly different perspective.</p><p></p><p>A Rogue10/Fighter 10 can be an effective character. The BAB, saving throws, feats and skills stack. You are getting them at different rates with the two classes, but the character can still be effective in a 20th level group.</p><p></p><p>A Bard10/Wizard10 is not competitive. Even though they are both arcane spellcasters, leveling in one doesn't help much with the other. If instead of caster level you used Spellcraft skill, perhaps you would have something. As it is, the spells don't pierce Spell Resistence, don't have the range, don't have the duration, and you are missing all the higher level spells.</p><p></p><p>Multiclassing spellcasters hurts them more than 'mundane' classes because they get *no* advancement in their main ability (spellcasting) when they go up in a different class.</p><p></p><p>The 'fix' that 3.5e suggests for this is to make a PrC for every combination of classes. I have to agree that this is not a very satisfying solution.</p><p></p><p>It isn't just a problem for those who split evenly. Someone who is 2/3 rogue, 1/3 wziard also has this problem. Arcane Trickster does a fair job of handling the person that is more arcane caster than rogue, but there isn't a good PrC for a rogue that dabbles in magic.</p><p></p><p>I happen to agree that a multitude of PrC is not a good fix for the problem of multi-classed spellcasters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bret, post: 962891, member: 713"] Time to look at this from a slightly different perspective. A Rogue10/Fighter 10 can be an effective character. The BAB, saving throws, feats and skills stack. You are getting them at different rates with the two classes, but the character can still be effective in a 20th level group. A Bard10/Wizard10 is not competitive. Even though they are both arcane spellcasters, leveling in one doesn't help much with the other. If instead of caster level you used Spellcraft skill, perhaps you would have something. As it is, the spells don't pierce Spell Resistence, don't have the range, don't have the duration, and you are missing all the higher level spells. Multiclassing spellcasters hurts them more than 'mundane' classes because they get *no* advancement in their main ability (spellcasting) when they go up in a different class. The 'fix' that 3.5e suggests for this is to make a PrC for every combination of classes. I have to agree that this is not a very satisfying solution. It isn't just a problem for those who split evenly. Someone who is 2/3 rogue, 1/3 wziard also has this problem. Arcane Trickster does a fair job of handling the person that is more arcane caster than rogue, but there isn't a good PrC for a rogue that dabbles in magic. I happen to agree that a multitude of PrC is not a good fix for the problem of multi-classed spellcasters. [/QUOTE]
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