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<blockquote data-quote="malcolm_n" data-source="post: 4358815" data-attributes="member: 63154"><p>1- Awesome. Thank you for pulling out the max potential on goodberry <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, so a dwarf demigod with 20 Wis starting can get up to +9 mod = 9 berries Assuming the character takes and 15 hp each as a minor action. If his con was also 28 at that point and he took defensive focus, he'd have 232 HP with healing surges granting him +58 HP apiece as a minor action for a second wind. It takes 4 rounds of minor actions, or 1 dedicated round and 1 minor action to heal 60 hp with goodberries. I think that'd be a decent trade. Maybe I misunderstand and you say it's weak? idk, free heals without need of the cleric is pretty good. and a standard hit from a creature of that level will deal an average 28 points damage, give or take ~10 for role. So, there are both my arguments for the power level of goodberry being high vs. low.</p><p> </p><p>2- Per the PHB (or maybe dmg), if a conjuration can be attacked, it uses your defenses unless otherwise specified.</p><p> </p><p>3- Good point on Go for the Eyes. It was an early mechanic I'd played with for the druid that I never changed by final cut. Consider it changed when I update next to include items and a few powers. Question though, isn't a second wind considered a heal, and don't monsters get them?</p><p> </p><p>4- IDK how much of a controller or leader he is. At lower levels I went for basic I tank or I attack powers on all three fronts with a notable drop in power for anything that didn't fit (like goodberry being about half the value of a cleric's heal but spread out to several people). By about 15 I started taking Warlock, Rogue, and Fighter powers, reflavoring and pushing them up a peg (ie level 13 vs. 17 for the druid). Any leader or controllerish powers at that point are strictly within the bounds of those three classes. Let me know, though, if you find differently.</p><p> </p><p>THANK YOU again for the very well put feedback.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="malcolm_n, post: 4358815, member: 63154"] 1- Awesome. Thank you for pulling out the max potential on goodberry :), so a dwarf demigod with 20 Wis starting can get up to +9 mod = 9 berries Assuming the character takes and 15 hp each as a minor action. If his con was also 28 at that point and he took defensive focus, he'd have 232 HP with healing surges granting him +58 HP apiece as a minor action for a second wind. It takes 4 rounds of minor actions, or 1 dedicated round and 1 minor action to heal 60 hp with goodberries. I think that'd be a decent trade. Maybe I misunderstand and you say it's weak? idk, free heals without need of the cleric is pretty good. and a standard hit from a creature of that level will deal an average 28 points damage, give or take ~10 for role. So, there are both my arguments for the power level of goodberry being high vs. low. 2- Per the PHB (or maybe dmg), if a conjuration can be attacked, it uses your defenses unless otherwise specified. 3- Good point on Go for the Eyes. It was an early mechanic I'd played with for the druid that I never changed by final cut. Consider it changed when I update next to include items and a few powers. Question though, isn't a second wind considered a heal, and don't monsters get them? 4- IDK how much of a controller or leader he is. At lower levels I went for basic I tank or I attack powers on all three fronts with a notable drop in power for anything that didn't fit (like goodberry being about half the value of a cleric's heal but spread out to several people). By about 15 I started taking Warlock, Rogue, and Fighter powers, reflavoring and pushing them up a peg (ie level 13 vs. 17 for the druid). Any leader or controllerish powers at that point are strictly within the bounds of those three classes. Let me know, though, if you find differently. THANK YOU again for the very well put feedback. [/QUOTE]
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