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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3646172" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Yeah - a readied Daze spell wouldn't prevent your casting by breaking your concentration; it would prevent your casting by rendering you unable to take the action required to cast the spell.</p><p></p><p>As a poor analogy, imagine a caster with 3 hit points, who is hit with an AoO provoked by his casting for 4 points of damage. He easily makes the Concentration check, but his spell fails anyway, since he is unconscious before it is completed. It's not the loss of concentration that caused the spell to fail; it was the inability to actually finish his Cast a Spell action.</p><p></p><p>So, let's say we have a caster who has cast Gate (Planar Travel). He is concentrating to keep the Gate open. He is struck for 4 points of damage, and needs to make a DC14 Concentration check - no problem. However, he's also knocked unconscious.</p><p></p><p>Before his turn next round, his buddy the Cleric casts Heal.</p><p></p><p>On his turn next round, he can take a standard action to maintain concentration.</p><p></p><p>At the point he's knocked unconscious (having succeeded on the Concentration check provoked by the damage he took), does the Gate close?</p><p></p><p>The event that can explicitly end concentration during casting (taking damage) didn't, since he made his check; the unconsciousness could prevent him taking the standard action, but the Heal spell removed that problem before it became an issue. If he took the standard action this round and next round, and made his Concentration check vs the damage taken, is there actually anything about the brief unconsciousness that would end the spell?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3646172, member: 1656"] Yeah - a readied Daze spell wouldn't prevent your casting by breaking your concentration; it would prevent your casting by rendering you unable to take the action required to cast the spell. As a poor analogy, imagine a caster with 3 hit points, who is hit with an AoO provoked by his casting for 4 points of damage. He easily makes the Concentration check, but his spell fails anyway, since he is unconscious before it is completed. It's not the loss of concentration that caused the spell to fail; it was the inability to actually finish his Cast a Spell action. So, let's say we have a caster who has cast Gate (Planar Travel). He is concentrating to keep the Gate open. He is struck for 4 points of damage, and needs to make a DC14 Concentration check - no problem. However, he's also knocked unconscious. Before his turn next round, his buddy the Cleric casts Heal. On his turn next round, he can take a standard action to maintain concentration. At the point he's knocked unconscious (having succeeded on the Concentration check provoked by the damage he took), does the Gate close? The event that can explicitly end concentration during casting (taking damage) didn't, since he made his check; the unconsciousness could prevent him taking the standard action, but the Heal spell removed that problem before it became an issue. If he took the standard action this round and next round, and made his Concentration check vs the damage taken, is there actually anything about the brief unconsciousness that would end the spell? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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