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<blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 5957282" data-attributes="member: 12306">Um, please.&nbsp; Yes, wizards did scale nicely.&nbsp; No, they did not outstrip Hercules by 9th level.&nbsp; Not even close.&nbsp; They had great utility and ok combat effectiveness (3e Fighters had no combat effectiveness, so meh).&nbsp; I've played in extensive 1e campaigns, getting my Fighter to 10th, alongside a wizard who got to 9th.&nbsp; Before a party split, the core was looking like 8th level fighters X3, 8th level wizard, 8th level druid, 8th cleric, 7 or 8th cleric, 7th? Illusionist.&nbsp; The spellcasters were not in a league of there own.&nbsp; They were the strategic movers, while the fighters were the tactical movers.Wizards have never (with the sole exception of Wish) had anything that vaguely looked like Narrative power.&nbsp; If they wanted to, say, reroute a river, they'd have to dig a new channel.&nbsp; At that point, a Mattock of the Titans would do just as well if not better (make em fighter only again, if I'm right, and they were class-resisticted in 1e).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kraydak, post: 5957282, member: 12306"] Um, please. Yes, wizards did scale nicely. No, they did not outstrip Hercules by 9th level. Not even close. They had great utility and ok combat effectiveness (3e Fighters had no combat effectiveness, so meh). I've played in extensive 1e campaigns, getting my Fighter to 10th, alongside a wizard who got to 9th. Before a party split, the core was looking like 8th level fighters X3, 8th level wizard, 8th level druid, 8th cleric, 7 or 8th cleric, 7th? Illusionist. The spellcasters were not in a league of there own. They were the strategic movers, while the fighters were the tactical movers. Wizards have never (with the sole exception of [I][B]Wish[/B][/I]) had anything that vaguely looked like Narrative power. If they wanted to, say, reroute a river, they'd have to dig a new channel. At that point, a Mattock of the Titans would do just as well if not better (make em fighter only again, if I'm right, and they were class-resisticted in 1e). [/QUOTE]

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