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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7788554" data-attributes="member: 12731">First off, you write walls of text. Sorry if that means you feel people only respond to half your points.I don't remember if you belong to the absurd &quot;a +2 AC bonus means 25-30% less damage&quot; people, but I don't hope so.Other than that I read a &quot;Pathfinder is different&quot; claim that I don't see any arguments for.Look, in D&amp;D the cost of getting the +2 AC bonus has always been the reduced DPR from not holding a weapon in that hand.Now Paizo asks us to also give up 1/3 of our action allowance. The argument&quot;you're only giving up your crappiest attack&quot; is entirely unconvincing. Of course the cost will be more expensive than that.So I'm thinking it must be because of the shield block that extra cost was added. And so I want to discuss how much DR you need to get in order to sacrifice 1 point of DPR. I also note you get only one block per round, so it better be a big attack. I totally expect the best use case is when each block soaks at least the shield's hardness, and that the fighter rotates through several shields.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7788554, member: 12731"] First off, you write walls of text. Sorry if that means you feel people only respond to half your points. I don't remember if you belong to the absurd "a +2 AC bonus means 25-30% less damage" people, but I don't hope so. Other than that I read a "Pathfinder is different" claim that I don't see any arguments for. Look, in D&D the cost of getting the +2 AC bonus has always been the reduced DPR from not holding a weapon in that hand. Now Paizo asks us to also give up 1/3 of our action allowance. The argument"you're only giving up your crappiest attack" is entirely unconvincing. Of course the cost will be more expensive than that. So I'm thinking it must be because of the shield block that extra cost was added. And so I want to discuss how much DR you need to get in order to sacrifice 1 point of DPR. I also note you get only one block per round, so it better be a big attack. I totally expect the best use case is when each block soaks at least the shield's hardness, and that the fighter rotates through several shields. [/QUOTE]

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