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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Iron Sky" data-source="post: 5394066" data-attributes="member: 60965">Composite Skill Challenge System(Version 1.2)I've been using Stalker0's Obsidian Skill Challenge system since I discovered it a year or more ago. I've enjoyed it, but I wanted the PCs results to have an impact on future rounds - if they do well early on, it makes it easier later. If they do poorly early on, they'll have to work harder later. I also wanted each roll to be more than pass/fail so individual check results also matter.I borrowed Stalker0's base DCs. Its assumed the PCs can use any skill that seems justifiable according to the challenge at hand. Each PC rolls once per round and compares their result to the Individual Skill Roll table to see what effect their roll has on the group's success that round and what effect it will have on their roll next round.Once everyone has rolled, the group will have a group total that they compare to the Round Totals table that earns them Victory Points and applies cumulative bonuses or penalties to everyone's checks in future rounds. At the end of the set number of rounds, the PCs compare their Victory Point total to the Victory Point Totals table that will determine the end result of the skill challenge - how well they succeeded at the objective. I've run a few of these in one of the L4W games I'm running at the moment, tweaking the system a bit as I go. It seems to work well for PbP. If you want to see how they worked in play they are <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/296905-beyond-rerisen-tower-dm-iron-sky-judge-renau1g-44.html#post5472335" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/296905-beyond-rerisen-tower-dm-iron-sky-judge-renau1g-36.html#post5452794" target="_blank">here</a> (in the Skill Challenge sblocks)I have yet to try one in a RL game, but if/when I do, I'll let you know how it went.---Bare-bones ExampleA group of 5 level 1 PCs enter a skill challenge.Rounds: 3Individuals' Skill Rolls(1st level)12-: 0 points, -2 on next round's skill check13-17: 1 point, -1 on next round's skill check18-22: 2 points, +1 on next round's skill check23+: 3 points, +2 on next round's skill checkNatural 1: -1 point, lose a healing surgeNatural 20: +1 point, gain a healing surge/AP/treasure parcel as appropriateRount Totals(5 PCs)0-4 points: 0 Victory Points and Disaster: -2 cumulative penalty to all future skill checks5-9 points: 1 Victory Points and Complication: -1 cumulative penalty to all future skill checks10-14 points: 2 Victory Points and Advantage: +1 cumulative bonus to all future skill checks15+ points: 3 Victory Points and Miracle: +2 cumulative bonus to all future skill checksFinal Victory Points(3 Rounds)0-2 total points: Disaster, appropriate consequences, 250xp3-5 total points: Complication, appropriate result and consequence, 375xp6-8 total points: Advantage, appropriate result and benefit, 375xp9+ total points: Miracle, appropriate benefits, 500xp---System BreakdownBase DC is taken from Stalker0's Obsidian system.Individuals' Skill DCsBase DC -6 or less: 0 points, -2 to next round's skill checkBase DC -5 to -1: 1 point, -1 to next round's skill checkBase DC +0 to +4: 2 points, +1 to next round's skill checkBase DC +5 or more: 3 points, +2 to next round's skill checkNatural 1: -1 points, lose a healing surgeNatural 20: +1 point, gain a healing surge/AP/treasure parcel as appropriateEach PC rolls and the points are totaled for the group to get the final results for the round, based on the # of PCs in the group represented by P.Group Point TotalsLess than P: 0 Victory Points and Disaster, -2 cumulative penalty to all PCs skill checksP to 2P-1: 1 Victory Points and Disadvantage, -1 cumulative penalty to all PCs skill checks2P to 3P-1: 2 Victory Points and Advantage, +1 cumulative penalty to all PCs skill checks3P+: 3 Victory Points and Miracle, +2 cumulative penalty to all PCs skill checksAt the end of the number of rounds set by the DM(3 is a good baseline) the PCs compare their Victory Point total to the Victory Point chart, based on the number of rounds represented by R. Round down.Victory Point TotalsLess than R: Disaster, the PCs fail spectacularly at whatever they were doing. Heap woe upon them.R to 2R-1: Disadvantage, the PCs succeed at the challenge, but barely and are not in a desirable situation at the end.2R  to 3R-1: Advantage, the PCs succeed at the challenge, leaving them in an advantageous position3R+: Miracle, the PCs succeed at the challenge in an epic fashion, doing better than anyone could have thought possible.Individual ActionsRepeating SkillsRepeating a skill two or more rounds in a row results in a cumulative -2 penalty to the skill roll.Action PointsAction Points may be spent to roll an additional skill roll for the round.  It must be different from the skill already used.Aid AnotherPCs may take -3 on a roll to gran an ally a reroll this round.Heroic EffortA PC may decide to expend a healing surge to gain +3 to a check before it is rolled or to apply +1 to a check after it is rolled or both for two surges.Experience RewardsThe base experience value successful completion of a Composite Skill Challenge is equal to a minion of the challenge's level per PC that participated per round of the challenge (Minion XP x # PCs x # rounds).---Modifying the ChallengesDMs are encouraged to add additional bonuses/penalties to results. For example, if the group gets the Disaster  result during a round, PCs might have to make an additional skill next  round that doesn't apply to the challenge, they might have a combat  interrupt the challenge, they might lose something valuable, etc. A Miracle result might let them find treasure, an NPC ally that grants them a reroll, grant bonuses to certain skills, etc.Additional Checks:You might have required roles each round that someone must do or the group faces some consequence, allowing individual players to shine or your players might be in a situation where a check should be required based on the environment the PCs are in(climbing a mountain in a blizzard for example).Scout/Face/Lead Researcher: Make two rolls(say, Stealth and Perception, Bluff and Diplomacy, or History and Diplomacy), apply one to the challenge, the other has a separate effect on the whole group.Map-maker: If no one gets at least a 2 Point Dungeoneering/Nature/Arcana/History check this round (as appropriate to the challenge), add 1 round to the challenge and -2 penalty to the group's rolls in future rounds.Required Checks: Each player must make a required check(Stealth to avoid the enemy, Endurance to resist the cold/heat, etc). Depending on the result, their roll for the round has a bonus or penalty, they lose a surge, etc.Long term challengesThe skill challenge might be traveling across a nation, fighting a campaign, talking a council of nobles into joining a cause, fleeing from a merciless band of hunters, etc.In these cases, you might have one round of the skill challenge a week, one at each noble's court the group arrives at, in between combats, etc. In these situations, it could be useful to come up with non-skill challenge results for the group's round results (I.E. face two combats instead of one on Disadvantage, avoid the enemy entirely until the next city on Advantage, etc).In CombatI haven't tried it yet, but it could be theoretically possible to have one of these challenges occur during combat. If that is the case, it's recommended that skill checks for the challenge by Minor Actions, to allow the skill challenge to mesh with the combat more smoothly.[sblock=Tables]These tables are miserable. The ones in the PDF are for more legible. Individual DCsLevel | 0 Points | 1 Point | 2 Points | 3 Points1 | 12- | 13-17 | 18-22 | 23+2-3 |13- | 14-18 | 19-23 | 24+4-5 |14- | 15-19 | 20-24 | 25+6-7 |15- | 16-20 | 21-25 | 26+8-9 |16- | 17-21 | 22-26 | 27+ 10-11 | 17- | 18-22 | 23-27 | 28+12-13 |18- | 19-23 | 24-28 | 29+14-15 |19- | 20-24 | 25-29 | 30+16-17 |20- | 21-25 | 26-30 | 31+18-19 | 21- | 22-26 | 27-31 | 32+20 | 22- | 23-27 | 28-32 | 33+21 | 23- | 24-28 | 29-33 | 34+22-23 |24- | 25-29 | 30-34 | 35+24-25 | 25- | 26-30 | 31-35 | 36+26-27 | 26- | 27-31 | 32-36 | 37+28-29 |27- | 28-32 | 33-37 | 38+30 | 28- | 29-33 | 34-38 | 39+                 Round Results  PCs | 0VP/Disaster | 1VP/Disadvantage | 2VP/Advantage | 3VP/Miracle1 | 0    | 1    | 2    | 3+2 | 0-1 | 2-3 | 4-5 | 6+3 | 0-2 | 3-5 | 6-8 | 9+4 | 0-3 | 4-7 | 8-11 | 12+5 | 0-4 | 5-9 | 10-14 |15+6 | 0-5 | 6-11 | 12-17 | 18+7 | 0-6 | 7-13 | 14-20 | 21+VP Total ResultsRounds | Disaster | Disadvantage | Advantage | Miracle1 | 0    | 1    | 2    | 32 | 0-1 | 2-3 | 4-5 | 63 | 0-2 | 3-5 | 6-8 | 94 | 0-3 | 4-7 | 8-11 | 125 | 0-4 | 5-9 | 10-14 |156 | 0-5 | 6-11 | 12-17 | 187 | 0-6 | 7-13 | 14-20 | 21XPRounds | XP Multiplier1 | x1 2 | x2 3 | x3 4 | x45 | x5Miracle Result | +1Disaster Result | -1[/sblock]</blockquote>

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