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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6150155" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Yes. You said it was written "specifically so" - the use of "so" there is understood to mean "for the purpose of"; changing the grammar used, in this particular regard, doesn't change the meaning of what you stated previously.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you want to abandon that particular line of reasoning, that's fine, but don't say that you weren't using it in the first place. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're stepping into a problematic area by saying "you changing the meaning of the words," since you're not specifying how you do that - indeed, the issue of assigning meaning to something you write can be based around nothing more than the intent of the author at the time of writing. As <a href="http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php" target="_blank">Humpty Dumpty</a> observed:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So the idea that the spell falls short by you "changing the meaning of the words" is clearly not true, since that gets back to the area of intent, which you've already said you weren't arguing to begin with.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, writing something down does matter to the spell description, since it says it can't break codes, so that's hardly irrelevant. Indeed, the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/comprehendLanguages.htm" target="_blank">spell description</a> says that it does not reveal messages "concealed in otherwise normal text." It's entirely possible to understand that part as meaning that it wouldn't make a transliteration comprehensible, since using one alphabet could be considered "normal" text, and using it to sound out foreign words could be concealing their meaning (since they have no meaning in the language(s) that alphabet is normally used in).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's more correct to say that you're interpreting the spell description, and that your interpretation is no more or less correct than anyone else's. You should feel free to use that interpretation, though; you can, of course, do whatever you want in your own game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 6150155, member: 8461"] Yes. You said it was written "specifically so" - the use of "so" there is understood to mean "for the purpose of"; changing the grammar used, in this particular regard, doesn't change the meaning of what you stated previously. Now, if you want to abandon that particular line of reasoning, that's fine, but don't say that you weren't using it in the first place. :) You're stepping into a problematic area by saying "you changing the meaning of the words," since you're not specifying how you do that - indeed, the issue of assigning meaning to something you write can be based around nothing more than the intent of the author at the time of writing. As [url=http://sabian.org/looking_glass6.php]Humpty Dumpty[/url] observed: So the idea that the spell falls short by you "changing the meaning of the words" is clearly not true, since that gets back to the area of intent, which you've already said you weren't arguing to begin with. Likewise, writing something down does matter to the spell description, since it says it can't break codes, so that's hardly irrelevant. Indeed, the [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/comprehendLanguages.htm]spell description[/url] says that it does not reveal messages "concealed in otherwise normal text." It's entirely possible to understand that part as meaning that it wouldn't make a transliteration comprehensible, since using one alphabet could be considered "normal" text, and using it to sound out foreign words could be concealing their meaning (since they have no meaning in the language(s) that alphabet is normally used in). It's more correct to say that you're interpreting the spell description, and that your interpretation is no more or less correct than anyone else's. You should feel free to use that interpretation, though; you can, of course, do whatever you want in your own game. [/QUOTE]
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