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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5862345" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>I'm going to apologize up front to [MENTION=89822]Jon_Dahl[/MENTION] if anything I say here is insulting. Not my intent, but we're talking about IQ and he ponied up a score. My conclusion at the end wraps up in a postive point, in fact. i.e. read and comprehed before posting that I'm a big meanie.</p><p></p><p>While great points have been raised about how crappy the IQ system is, it still renders results that indicate dumb people are dumb, smart people are smart.</p><p></p><p>It is possible that a person could score poorly on it, and still be a rocket scientist. And there are rocket scientists who score high on it, yet in the game of life (or RPGs by one example), they are freaking morons when it comes to common sense decision making.</p><p></p><p>Those are the outliers. Generally, somebody who scores poorly on the IQ test is markedly different than somebody who scored above the average range (say 120-130 range)</p><p></p><p>As I understand it, 100 IQ may be designated as average, but that's still not a good score. 80 is mentally retarded, for instance.</p><p></p><p>Now the OP says he's in the 101 to 111 range. S'mon flagged it as 105 for conversation's sake. The test measures comprehension and math. Those are 2 things D&D make some use of. So if Jon says he scored low on the test AND that he has problems keeping track of stuff in the game, that makes sense to based on what the test measures and what the game involves.</p><p></p><p>Does it mean the number is an accurate total definition of Jon? No. The number isn't as important as the fact that it is low and it's lowness corresponds to his gaming difficulty.</p><p></p><p>Generally, stupid people have no interest in smart things. The fact that Jon Dahl likes D&D (which is a smart thing) says he is probably a smart person. The test merely identified an area he has a problem in.</p><p></p><p>Some of that stuff [MENTION=59506]El Mahdi[/MENTION] posted might have some alternative tests to try out. That may verify a weakness in one area, strength in another.</p><p></p><p>For full disclosure (since the OP took a social risk), I've never taken a real IQ test. I did take one online because I was curious. It scored me as 126, which assuming it is moderately accurate, is above average, but not in the rocket scientist range. Normal people may think I am really smart and I can see that I am smarter than most people, but there are smarter people out there. Forums like this (D&D is a smart person's game) tend to attract smart people, so odds are good, I am in the dumb minority as contrasted to real life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5862345, member: 8835"] I'm going to apologize up front to [MENTION=89822]Jon_Dahl[/MENTION] if anything I say here is insulting. Not my intent, but we're talking about IQ and he ponied up a score. My conclusion at the end wraps up in a postive point, in fact. i.e. read and comprehed before posting that I'm a big meanie. While great points have been raised about how crappy the IQ system is, it still renders results that indicate dumb people are dumb, smart people are smart. It is possible that a person could score poorly on it, and still be a rocket scientist. And there are rocket scientists who score high on it, yet in the game of life (or RPGs by one example), they are freaking morons when it comes to common sense decision making. Those are the outliers. Generally, somebody who scores poorly on the IQ test is markedly different than somebody who scored above the average range (say 120-130 range) As I understand it, 100 IQ may be designated as average, but that's still not a good score. 80 is mentally retarded, for instance. Now the OP says he's in the 101 to 111 range. S'mon flagged it as 105 for conversation's sake. The test measures comprehension and math. Those are 2 things D&D make some use of. So if Jon says he scored low on the test AND that he has problems keeping track of stuff in the game, that makes sense to based on what the test measures and what the game involves. Does it mean the number is an accurate total definition of Jon? No. The number isn't as important as the fact that it is low and it's lowness corresponds to his gaming difficulty. Generally, stupid people have no interest in smart things. The fact that Jon Dahl likes D&D (which is a smart thing) says he is probably a smart person. The test merely identified an area he has a problem in. Some of that stuff [MENTION=59506]El Mahdi[/MENTION] posted might have some alternative tests to try out. That may verify a weakness in one area, strength in another. For full disclosure (since the OP took a social risk), I've never taken a real IQ test. I did take one online because I was curious. It scored me as 126, which assuming it is moderately accurate, is above average, but not in the rocket scientist range. Normal people may think I am really smart and I can see that I am smarter than most people, but there are smarter people out there. Forums like this (D&D is a smart person's game) tend to attract smart people, so odds are good, I am in the dumb minority as contrasted to real life. [/QUOTE]
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