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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9645632" data-attributes="member: 18">Yeah the whole notion of the save/reload at any time &quot;savescum&quot;-style approach is like, my generation and older, really, maybe a little younger, down like 35 or so. It's also PC-specific, for the most part - very few console games have ever had that. The vast majority of have used savepoints and checkpoints. It also didn't really appear until the 1990s. The first game I can remember actually utilizing save/reload for anything but recovering from death (i.e. &quot;savescumming&quot;) is 1993's Doom. After that it became very common for a decade or so, before starting to become increasingly rare as consoles dominated the gaming scene.Anyone much younger than that is going to have grown up an a gaming environment dominated by checkpoints, autosaves, and save points. And for the most part I don't find I miss save/reload, except in the odd game which intentionally harks back to '90s-style PC stuff (but those usually have save/reload).Ok, wow, I didn't realize. Save points in the world have been a common mechanism across a wide variety of games since at least 1987/1986 with Legend of Zelda (and then Final Fantasy 1). The earliest known save game mechanism was a save-and-quit mechanism in The Dungeon in 1975, and most games had either no saves beyond high scores (or possibly unlocks) until some time in the 1980s. The first game which allowed you to just reload was actually a little earlier - Pop and Chips (a forgotten platformer, not the snack), which I believe let you save between levels, in 1985. But re: save points, they've been common in quite a variety of games - starting with JRPGs but then branching out (and they're not uncommon in Western games).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9645632, member: 18"] Yeah the whole notion of the save/reload at any time "savescum"-style approach is like, my generation and older, really, maybe a little younger, down like 35 or so. It's also PC-specific, for the most part - very few console games have ever had that. The vast majority of have used savepoints and checkpoints. It also didn't really appear until the 1990s. The first game I can remember actually utilizing save/reload for anything but recovering from death (i.e. "savescumming") is 1993's Doom. After that it became very common for a decade or so, before starting to become increasingly rare as consoles dominated the gaming scene. Anyone much younger than that is going to have grown up an a gaming environment dominated by checkpoints, autosaves, and save points. And for the most part I don't find I miss save/reload, except in the odd game which intentionally harks back to '90s-style PC stuff (but those usually have save/reload). Ok, wow, I didn't realize. Save points in the world have been a common mechanism across a wide variety of games since at least 1987/1986 with Legend of Zelda (and then Final Fantasy 1). The earliest known save game mechanism was a save-and-quit mechanism in [I]The Dungeon[/I] in 1975, and most games had either no saves beyond high scores (or possibly unlocks) until some time in the 1980s. The first game which allowed you to just reload was actually a little earlier - [I]Pop and Chips[/I] (a forgotten platformer, not the snack), which I believe let you save between levels, in 1985. But re: save points, they've been common in quite a variety of games - starting with JRPGs but then branching out (and they're not uncommon in Western games). [/QUOTE]

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