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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9648571" data-attributes="member: 18">So because you personally don't understand the difference between changing volume and saving the total game state at any point, game designers are in the wrong?I mean, it's an opinion. It's a very &quot;2025&quot; opinion in that it dismisses experts (game designers in this case) and puts a lack of comprehension as supreme, but I don't think it's helpful to the discussion nor well-informed.If nothing else, if you can't understand how saving games is more than a &quot;technical&quot; aspect, from this thread, then I don't know how to help you. There are technical elements, for sure, but there are also design choices which are fundamental to certain genres of game. Soulslike games, like Elden Ring, which has sold over 30m copies, rely on you not being able to save and reload for their fundamental gameplay, and would be no fun if you could (though ER and many others do let you save and quit).As an aside, the Xbox Series X/S is the first console which can kind of do &quot;save anywhere&quot; with &quot;all&quot; (actually just most) games, because it totally pause and save the game state (with most single-player games), and that is a very recent development, and further, the PS5 can't do it, nor can PCs, because they don't have right hardware setup. Indeed it would be impossible to guarantee all PCs did have the right hardware setup. This should demonstrate to you how &quot;non-trivial&quot; this is.Further, even with the ability to do that, patches or similar break it, and I think if the Xbox loses power, it also loses the save state because it has to use the actual memory, not the SSD. And it can only do it for one game at once.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9648571, member: 18"] So because you personally don't understand the difference between changing volume and saving the total game state at any point, game designers are in the wrong? I mean, it's an opinion. It's a very "2025" opinion in that it dismisses experts (game designers in this case) and puts a lack of comprehension as supreme, but I don't think it's helpful to the discussion nor well-informed. If nothing else, if you can't understand how saving games is more than a "technical" aspect, from this thread, then I don't know how to help you. There are technical elements, for sure, but there are also design choices which are fundamental to certain genres of game. Soulslike games, like Elden Ring, which has sold over 30m copies, rely on you not being able to save and reload for their fundamental gameplay, and would be no fun if you could (though ER and many others do let you save and quit). As an aside, the Xbox Series X/S is the first console which can kind of do "save anywhere" with "all" (actually just most) games, because it totally pause and save the game state (with most single-player games), and that is a very recent development, and further, the PS5 can't do it, nor can PCs, because they don't have right hardware setup. Indeed it would be impossible to guarantee all PCs did have the right hardware setup. This should demonstrate to you how "non-trivial" this is. Further, even with the ability to do that, patches or similar break it, and I think if the Xbox loses power, it also loses the save state because it has to use the actual memory, not the SSD. And it can only do it for one game at once. [/QUOTE]

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