Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3646862" data-attributes="member: 18280">There are two factors involved here.(1) is a sequence of threads seemingly trying to redefine people's experiences of both earlier and current editions.&nbsp; Many people play 3e with house rules; 1e and 2e were built on the assumption that you would be using house rules.&nbsp; What people did with the games is the important thing when examining people's actual experiences.(2) is the statement that the 1e UA is the Most Munchkinny Book Evar! with an optional rule being used as proof.&nbsp; It may be true that the 1e UA is the MMBE! but the presence of that optional rule isn't proof that it is.&nbsp; Nor is it, IMHO, even much evidence.&nbsp; The various Underdark races, the Cavalier, and the Barbarian OTOH may be submitted as Exhibits A, B, and C without too much controversy.While I'm not sure that 1e UA is the MMBE!, I'll certainly agree it was at the time....and it made little (by which I mean no) effort to hide it.Of course, the thread title is about Gary being a munchkin, not the UA being the MMBE!, and I think I was correct as to the reason the thread exists.&nbsp; Some people feel better about their gaming choices if they can &quot;prove&quot; that they're playing the &quot;rightgoodfun&quot; way (or the way Gary must also have played...Old Skool!).RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3646862, member: 18280"] There are two factors involved here. (1) is a sequence of threads seemingly trying to redefine people's experiences of both earlier and current editions. Many people play 3e with house rules; 1e and 2e were built on the assumption that you would be using house rules. What people did with the games is the important thing when examining people's actual experiences. (2) is the statement that the 1e UA is the Most Munchkinny Book Evar! with an optional rule being used as proof. It may be true that the 1e UA is the MMBE! but the presence of that optional rule isn't proof that it is. Nor is it, IMHO, even much evidence. The various Underdark races, the Cavalier, and the Barbarian OTOH may be submitted as Exhibits A, B, and C without too much controversy. While I'm not sure that 1e UA is the MMBE!, I'll certainly agree it was at the time....and it made little (by which I mean no) effort to hide it. Of course, the thread title is about Gary being a munchkin, not the UA being the MMBE!, and I think I was correct as to the reason the thread exists. Some people feel better about their gaming choices if they can "prove" that they're playing the "rightgoodfun" way (or the way Gary must also have played...Old Skool!). RC [/QUOTE]

Verification