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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3663883" data-attributes="member: 18280">Perhaps you believe so.&nbsp; But I certainly do not, nor would I refer to any FF product as an RPG.&nbsp; If you truly believe that &quot;Colloquially, no roleplaying is required for a game to be an RPG&quot;, then I would have to submit that this is such a major change in definition that it is not in any way, shape, or form compatable with the original meaning of the term.And we know the original meaning of the term, because the gentleman who coined the original meaning of the term told us what it was.Hence:As the term is now used, I would agree that a secondary definition of &quot;role-playing game&quot; may now exist which, in fact, denotes a simulation of the original definition.Henry Ford creates an automobile.Bob Bobson creates a three-wheel machine that he calls an automobile, which derives power from the user pedalling.Henry Ford says it is not an automobile, because it lacks defining characteristics of an automobile, such as automatic power.Other people side with Bob Bobson and say that, no, Henry Ford doesn't know what he's talking about.The tricycle is sold as an automobile.The term &quot;automobile&quot; has expanded quite a lot since ye olden days.(Or, as some might say, using the term that way &quot;expands&quot; it to the point where it becomes meaningless except as a sales tool.)As am I.&nbsp; As am I.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3663883, member: 18280"] Perhaps you believe so. But I certainly do not, nor would I refer to any FF product as an RPG. If you truly believe that "Colloquially, no roleplaying is required for a game to be an RPG", then I would have to submit that this is such a major change in definition that it is not in any way, shape, or form compatable with the original meaning of the term. And we know the original meaning of the term, because the gentleman who coined the original meaning of the term told us what it was. Hence: [indent]As the term is now used, I would agree that a secondary definition of "role-playing game" may now exist which, in fact, denotes a simulation of the original definition.[/indent] Henry Ford creates an automobile. Bob Bobson creates a three-wheel machine that he calls an automobile, which derives power from the user pedalling. Henry Ford says it is not an automobile, because it lacks defining characteristics of an automobile, such as automatic power. Other people side with Bob Bobson and say that, no, Henry Ford doesn't know what he's talking about. The tricycle is sold as an automobile. The term "automobile" has expanded quite a lot since ye olden days. (Or, as some might say, using the term that way "expands" it to the point where it becomes meaningless except as a sales tool.) As am I. As am I. :D :lol: [/QUOTE]

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