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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1299308" data-attributes="member: 2238">Actually the concept of conan was the noble savage.&nbsp; He was designed to show how civilisation was not civilised.&nbsp; He only takes a woman by force once and she is not even human.&nbsp;&nbsp; After REH met N. Price, many of his women characters became very fleshed out.&nbsp; The helpless woman completely disappears after the appearance of Valeria.&nbsp; The character Conan is completely different after the hands of De Camp are done with it.&nbsp; There is a huge ammount of history in Howards Conan work, you just have to know how to find it and know what histories to look for.&nbsp; And it is documented somewhere that Tolkein was aware of Howard's work when he was alive and writing.&nbsp; A little experiment you can conduct is to go and read the REH only conan stories.&nbsp; Then read some of the others.&nbsp; You will find that they are very different characters.Another factor is that the characters in the original Conan stories did develop, but REH characterises different than JRRT.&nbsp; One who is more receptive to the other is more likely to find the characters of the one they are less receptive to to be less developed.Aaron.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jester47, post: 1299308, member: 2238"] Actually the concept of conan was the noble savage. He was designed to show how civilisation was not civilised. He only takes a woman by force once and she is not even human. After REH met N. Price, many of his women characters became very fleshed out. The helpless woman completely disappears after the appearance of Valeria. The character Conan is completely different after the hands of De Camp are done with it. There is a huge ammount of history in Howards Conan work, you just have to know how to find it and know what histories to look for. And it is documented somewhere that Tolkein was aware of Howard's work when he was alive and writing. A little experiment you can conduct is to go and read the REH only conan stories. Then read some of the others. You will find that they are very different characters. Another factor is that the characters in the original Conan stories did develop, but REH characterises different than JRRT. One who is more receptive to the other is more likely to find the characters of the one they are less receptive to to be less developed. Aaron. [/QUOTE]

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