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<blockquote data-quote="Iron_Chef" data-source="post: 1299494" data-attributes="member: 4530"><p>Amazing to you, and many others, but not to me. Fellowship was good, I'll admit, but I got bored and gave up on the series after Two Towers put me to sleep. Never made it more than halfway through as it was so DULL (don't get me started on The Silmarillon). I found myself skipping ahead in TT for scenes with the bad guys so something interesting would happen, but gave up in frustration at how many pages were being tossed out as a result. I never did that with ANY Conan story, even the crappy non-REH ones. And I read the first seven GOR books without complaint (until the seventh, but that one had no Tarl Cabot, so who can blame me?).</p><p></p><p>The LotR movie versions I enjoyed---but again, Fellowship was best. Afterwards, too many unconsequential, uninteresting characters (Eowyn, Faromir, Denethor, Treebeard, to name a few whose names I can remember) crop up and make things confusing. I thought Return was the weakest movie (never read the book). Denethor was barely in it and just plain crazy from frame one; who cares? The death of Sauron made me feel nothing, and the smarmy crap with them taking thirty minutes to say goodbye after Sauron dies put me to sleep. ZZZZZZZZ. I wanted more Saruman and Grima, but got nothing. Also missing (but present in the cartoon) were Sam and Frodo shanghaied into an orc army (while they're wearing the orc armor), messing with the magical Guardian statues at the Tower where Sam rescues Frodo, and "The Voice Of Sauron" (evil guy who comes out of the Black Gate to "parlay" with Aragorn). IMO, it would have been far more effective for Sauron to have regained his physical form and fought with Aragorn and Gandalf, etc., in a titanic battle before being killed; the way it's written is anti-climactic as hell, and it seems rather far-fetched to me that his whole land falls apart within seconds of his demise (a problem I had with Return of the Jedi as well). As for Sauron, an uncommunicative giant eyeball just doesn't cut it as an arch-villain in my book. What the Return of the King movie really needed to liven things up was a techno-dance remix of "Where There's A Whip, There's A Way" (the best part of the cartoon). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p> </p><p>What's this about Saruman changing his name to Sharkey? Sounds lame (not as lame as the Ents, though). Somebody clue me in, as I'm NOT reading the book. Is that gonna be in the extended Return of the King movie? It's just really a major disappointment to have the one main archvillain I can identify with completely disappear from the third movie! I was bummed enough by his cowardly handling of the Ent attack on Isengard in TT, but to totally disappear in RotK is ridiculous and bad filmmaking/writing as far as I'm concerned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iron_Chef, post: 1299494, member: 4530"] Amazing to you, and many others, but not to me. Fellowship was good, I'll admit, but I got bored and gave up on the series after Two Towers put me to sleep. Never made it more than halfway through as it was so DULL (don't get me started on The Silmarillon). I found myself skipping ahead in TT for scenes with the bad guys so something interesting would happen, but gave up in frustration at how many pages were being tossed out as a result. I never did that with ANY Conan story, even the crappy non-REH ones. And I read the first seven GOR books without complaint (until the seventh, but that one had no Tarl Cabot, so who can blame me?). The LotR movie versions I enjoyed---but again, Fellowship was best. Afterwards, too many unconsequential, uninteresting characters (Eowyn, Faromir, Denethor, Treebeard, to name a few whose names I can remember) crop up and make things confusing. I thought Return was the weakest movie (never read the book). Denethor was barely in it and just plain crazy from frame one; who cares? The death of Sauron made me feel nothing, and the smarmy crap with them taking thirty minutes to say goodbye after Sauron dies put me to sleep. ZZZZZZZZ. I wanted more Saruman and Grima, but got nothing. Also missing (but present in the cartoon) were Sam and Frodo shanghaied into an orc army (while they're wearing the orc armor), messing with the magical Guardian statues at the Tower where Sam rescues Frodo, and "The Voice Of Sauron" (evil guy who comes out of the Black Gate to "parlay" with Aragorn). IMO, it would have been far more effective for Sauron to have regained his physical form and fought with Aragorn and Gandalf, etc., in a titanic battle before being killed; the way it's written is anti-climactic as hell, and it seems rather far-fetched to me that his whole land falls apart within seconds of his demise (a problem I had with Return of the Jedi as well). As for Sauron, an uncommunicative giant eyeball just doesn't cut it as an arch-villain in my book. What the Return of the King movie really needed to liven things up was a techno-dance remix of "Where There's A Whip, There's A Way" (the best part of the cartoon). :D What's this about Saruman changing his name to Sharkey? Sounds lame (not as lame as the Ents, though). Somebody clue me in, as I'm NOT reading the book. Is that gonna be in the extended Return of the King movie? It's just really a major disappointment to have the one main archvillain I can identify with completely disappear from the third movie! I was bummed enough by his cowardly handling of the Ent attack on Isengard in TT, but to totally disappear in RotK is ridiculous and bad filmmaking/writing as far as I'm concerned. [/QUOTE]
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