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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1301054" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>And ultimately would prove unsatisfying, to me, and defeat the point of the trilogy in general...but that's another discussion entirely. (Mind you, some of us don't consider characters like Theoden and Faramir to be boring characters by any stretch, but that's yet another discussion).</p><p> </p><p>The scenes and closure for certain topics you're looking for will be in the Extended Edition for RotK. Saruman's scene will be there, as will Sam and Frodo in goblin armor (as certain action figures show <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />), the houses of the Healing and a few others.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Then I'm guessing we could shorten your sentence to "I know very readers, period." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Almost every single genre reader I know loves Harry Potter and many non-genre readers, as well. I know many non-genre readers who simply couldn't or wouldn't penetrate LotR. That number has changed since the movies came out, and many readers who failed to get into the books when younger are trying again, and navigating their way through it.</p><p> </p><p>Rowling isn't just popluar because she appeals to kids. Her books get more sophisticated with each new one, and are suprisingly relevant to kids and adults around the world. A quick glance at the books, movies and TV forum will show that Harry Potter is well loved amongst ENWorlders.</p><p> </p><p>A large problem with comparing Conan and LotR is that it's like trying to compare a military Humvee against a JetSki. They're radically different in approach, design and intent. Conan was intended as popular fiction, an escapist fantasy that intended nothing more than to entertain and transport the reader to an imaginary place, taking the reader 'into the moment'. LotR was designed to evoke the old epics of myth, more as an epic poem in the form of Beowulf or the Nordic myth cycles than of a novel. Reading LotR with the intention of interpeting it as a novel renders it as a poor example of such. Reading it as a poem of mythology or a mythic tale places it in a different category, with different rules.</p><p> </p><p>And both approaches are equally valid and distinct. Perhpas the question should not be "<em>Is one better than the other?</em>" but "<em>Does each achieve the author's goal when he wrote it?</em>" </p><p> </p><p>I'm glad to hear the original Conan stories are in print, so that I can actually read them. Does anyone know if Marvel collected the comics and magazines into trade paperbacks? To this day, my wife regrets having sold her collection of them, and I'd love to get them for her again (not to mention BWS and the other fantastic artists and writers who worked on it)>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1301054, member: 151"] And ultimately would prove unsatisfying, to me, and defeat the point of the trilogy in general...but that's another discussion entirely. (Mind you, some of us don't consider characters like Theoden and Faramir to be boring characters by any stretch, but that's yet another discussion). The scenes and closure for certain topics you're looking for will be in the Extended Edition for RotK. Saruman's scene will be there, as will Sam and Frodo in goblin armor (as certain action figures show :)), the houses of the Healing and a few others. Then I'm guessing we could shorten your sentence to "I know very readers, period." :) Almost every single genre reader I know loves Harry Potter and many non-genre readers, as well. I know many non-genre readers who simply couldn't or wouldn't penetrate LotR. That number has changed since the movies came out, and many readers who failed to get into the books when younger are trying again, and navigating their way through it. Rowling isn't just popluar because she appeals to kids. Her books get more sophisticated with each new one, and are suprisingly relevant to kids and adults around the world. A quick glance at the books, movies and TV forum will show that Harry Potter is well loved amongst ENWorlders. A large problem with comparing Conan and LotR is that it's like trying to compare a military Humvee against a JetSki. They're radically different in approach, design and intent. Conan was intended as popular fiction, an escapist fantasy that intended nothing more than to entertain and transport the reader to an imaginary place, taking the reader 'into the moment'. LotR was designed to evoke the old epics of myth, more as an epic poem in the form of Beowulf or the Nordic myth cycles than of a novel. Reading LotR with the intention of interpeting it as a novel renders it as a poor example of such. Reading it as a poem of mythology or a mythic tale places it in a different category, with different rules. And both approaches are equally valid and distinct. Perhpas the question should not be "[i]Is one better than the other?[/i]" but "[i]Does each achieve the author's goal when he wrote it?[/i]" I'm glad to hear the original Conan stories are in print, so that I can actually read them. Does anyone know if Marvel collected the comics and magazines into trade paperbacks? To this day, my wife regrets having sold her collection of them, and I'd love to get them for her again (not to mention BWS and the other fantastic artists and writers who worked on it)>. [/QUOTE]
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