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<blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 878281" data-attributes="member: 10638">Yes, you make an excellent point.&nbsp; Mage of the Arcane order is THE powerup for the Sorcerer (our group ranks it three out of three stars for power, but for the sorcerer only).&nbsp; It's also relevant in Hyboria because of all of the actual magical orders out there (by Erlik's leprous touch, I can think of none right now).&nbsp;There are individual PrC's where I suppose that as a DM, I'll just have to &quot;Rule 0&quot; them and note that it's got to be done 'in-character' or in other words, 'earned.'&nbsp; That's been very easy to do in our group, simply because we all give each other crap if our characters are shallow, number-crunched twinks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; In a group where less emphasis is placed on 'why,' instead of 'how,' this would be a lot harder. Here are the real resons I do this though:1)&nbsp; The sacrifices for 5 levels and the predictions involved take the fun out of playing the character at lower levels in a chaotic and random setting such as Hyboria2)&nbsp; The over-specialization of characters to 'fit the requirements' encourages munchkinism by it's very nature (or it makes your character less fun because it's a punishment)3)&nbsp; Choice of prestige classes based on where you want to go with your character after 5th level encourages players to explore other options, which makes the game more fun for all of us with new surprises4)&nbsp; It forces the players to read up on Hyboria to reason how a prestige class can be adapted into the settingThanks for the feedback!&nbsp; Jay</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emirikol, post: 878281, member: 10638"] Yes, you make an excellent point. Mage of the Arcane order is THE powerup for the Sorcerer (our group ranks it three out of three stars for power, but for the sorcerer only). It's also relevant in Hyboria because of all of the actual magical orders out there (by Erlik's leprous touch, I can think of none right now). There are individual PrC's where I suppose that as a DM, I'll just have to "Rule 0" them and note that it's got to be done 'in-character' or in other words, 'earned.' That's been very easy to do in our group, simply because we all give each other crap if our characters are shallow, number-crunched twinks :) In a group where less emphasis is placed on 'why,' instead of 'how,' this would be a lot harder. Here are the real resons I do this though: 1) The sacrifices for 5 levels and the predictions involved take the fun out of playing the character at lower levels in a chaotic and random setting such as Hyboria 2) The over-specialization of characters to 'fit the requirements' encourages munchkinism by it's very nature (or it makes your character less fun because it's a punishment) 3) Choice of prestige classes based on where you want to go with your character after 5th level encourages players to explore other options, which makes the game more fun for all of us with new surprises 4) It forces the players to read up on Hyboria to reason how a prestige class can be adapted into the setting Thanks for the feedback! Jay [/QUOTE]

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