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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Legildur" data-source="post: 521011" data-attributes="member: 1258">Dursk Starkfire wrote:But, as Kershek rightly points out, using Reflex save doesn't scale with Tumble.  That is, Tumble skill modifier increases more rapidly than Reflex save.We had a total party kill where an evil priest clobbered my elven monk1/wizard6 (evoker) with an AOO against his Concentration adjusted AC just as he was casting defensively to try and save the remaining party members.  Oh well.I also lost a human Monk 6 when he tried to tumble past a raging orc barbarian - got clobbered by a AOO on the way past (AC30 or something like that) and then got cleaned up on the following round with a great axe critical.So, even though I've lost 2 characters to these house rules, I still strongly support using them - otherwise Tumble is just an insanely good way to get around the battlefield.  And Concentration gets abusive as well as the wizard stands before the Stone Giant and casts with impunity.</blockquote>