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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4551507" data-attributes="member: 4722">Yeah, that's what I've been doing too - it usually applies to monsters more than PCs.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Yeah, probably. I revised monks to be less mystical, though, so dropping Knowledge (arcana) would make sense.That gave me a really interesting idea - combat focus. You can make a Concentration check as a move action to gain bonuses to a single attack (the DC determines the bonus). This would simulate the archer lining up the perfect shot, the assassin waiting for that exact moment to strike, or the fighter looking for the opening in his opponent's defense. I see Sense Motive as kind of a social counter to social skills, that should require some kind of interaction, but Concentrate as a counter to mental trickery (feinting) or techniques (intimidating). Sense Motive seems to fit better when you can observe and interact, while Concentrate implies the ability to focus, be in the "now", and reacts with split-second timing which is required when someone is attempting to pick your pocket or mislead you in combat. I think their thinking is that BAB = experience, and someone who's more experienced would be less likely to fall for a feint. As for level checks, it was a substitute for power - I guess they think that if you're more or less powerful than the other person (whether or not you know it), you're more or less susceptible to intimidation.Hey, I never said it made sense... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I used to play in a Neverwinter Nights persistent world (an MMO, basically); NWN doesn't have Sense Motive, so we usually used Will saves vs. Intimidation. Obviously, the Intimidate check far exceeds the Will save, but I think this better simulates what happens, since Will saves cover fear-based effects (which is what intimidation is). Once again, Rule of 3 to the rescue! If we divide the Intimidate check by 3, it brings it well down into the range of a Will save (even your PC scoring 40+).For Bluff... I dunno. You could extend combat focus over multiple rounds, representing the fighter in intense combat with his opponent (but he would be more susceptible to flanking attacks); he would then be watching his opponent more closely and get a bonus to avoid being fooled by a feint.It's kind of an even split between who gets Concentration and who gets Spot; I don't think anyone gets them both, and many classes get neither.</blockquote>

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