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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7909266" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Two points here:</p><p></p><p>First - in this case where you want to run an old-school adventure (or particularly if you want to run lots of them and-or just have a more old-school feel to your campaign) you might want to apply some old-school thinking while top-to-bottom rejigging how spells work in your 5e game. Maybe ditch concentration entirely; or for specific spells (charm obviously being one in this case). Maybe look at ditching the concept of save-every-round for some spells and go back to fixed durations. And so on, spell by spell - and yes, I'm well aware this is tedious work, having done it a few times myself. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Second - regarding the idea that NPCs and PCs work differently. If Excapode turns out here to be an aboleth or a vampire or some other not-available-as-PC creature then you're completely off the hook. But if Excapode is a normal Human wizard, and I'm playing a normal Human wizard as my PC, and I see him able to charm half a battalion all at once, I-as-player am immediately going to want to know how my character can do the same thing. Do I need more levels? Do I need a specific device he's using? Do I need to pillage his spellbook and learn whatever version of the charm spell he's got, as it's obviously much superior to mine? I'll make those inquiries of whoever might have answers - Wizards' guilds, Excapode's old associates, sages, etc. - along with looting him and his lair until I find his spellbook; and you-as-DM had better have a good answer that's consistent with the game's fiction or you're going to have one pissed-off player. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7909266, member: 29398"] Two points here: First - in this case where you want to run an old-school adventure (or particularly if you want to run lots of them and-or just have a more old-school feel to your campaign) you might want to apply some old-school thinking while top-to-bottom rejigging how spells work in your 5e game. Maybe ditch concentration entirely; or for specific spells (charm obviously being one in this case). Maybe look at ditching the concept of save-every-round for some spells and go back to fixed durations. And so on, spell by spell - and yes, I'm well aware this is tedious work, having done it a few times myself. :) Second - regarding the idea that NPCs and PCs work differently. If Excapode turns out here to be an aboleth or a vampire or some other not-available-as-PC creature then you're completely off the hook. But if Excapode is a normal Human wizard, and I'm playing a normal Human wizard as my PC, and I see him able to charm half a battalion all at once, I-as-player am immediately going to want to know how my character can do the same thing. Do I need more levels? Do I need a specific device he's using? Do I need to pillage his spellbook and learn whatever version of the charm spell he's got, as it's obviously much superior to mine? I'll make those inquiries of whoever might have answers - Wizards' guilds, Excapode's old associates, sages, etc. - along with looting him and his lair until I find his spellbook; and you-as-DM had better have a good answer that's consistent with the game's fiction or you're going to have one pissed-off player. :) [/QUOTE]
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