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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7913758" data-attributes="member: 29398">And, in 1e RAW, by gaining treasure and by playing to one's alignment.A 10th level librarian or farmer or bank manger isn't going to exist as none of those are classes in which one can earn xp.Here we disagree; I see the classes as describing anyone who would reasonably fit into one.  Any soldier, for example, is automatically on its way to being a Fighter if not already there.  Any urchin or street thief is either already a Thief or well on its way to becoming one.  Any acolyte in a temple has the potential to become a Cleric given enough time and devotion but need never leave the temple in order to do so.For anything in a class I'd toss this and replace with the hit dice appropriate to that class - which may still be a d8. But soldiers becoming Fighters would use a d10, a street urchin becoming a thief would use d6, and so forth.Note that this does raise a big headache in one regard: how to distinguish the hit points one has as a non-adventuring commoner (because everything has hit points) and the hit points earned as a member of a class; as they're not additive and having one replace the other is kinda messy.We found that adding in a system of "body points" solved this rather elegantly (though some complications arose elsewhere, but nothing too onerous): everyone has a certain number of body points (not many, usually 2-5 for a Human) and for most common folk that's all the h.p. they ever get.  "Fatigue points" are those you earn through your class; sometimes commoners have 1 or 2 of these but no more.  Your b.p. are locked in for life* once rolled, while your f.p. change with your class level.* - barring corner cases e.g. loss of a limb, which can permanently affect your b.p. totalAs a pleasant side effect this b.p.-f.p. system also solves a lot of the h.p.-are-meat vs h.p.-are-luck arguments: b.p. are pretty much all meat, f.p. are mostly not meat but can still represent nicks, cuts, bruises etc.</blockquote>

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