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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6473629" data-attributes="member: 14506">Ok, so one of the major changes to the rules, in an attempt to limit casters and their ability to dominate play at high levels, was to institute some pretty onus rules for concentration. Since it appears many of the 5e spells were adapted directly from 3e where the same level of onus was not given to concentration. This makes a lot of 5e spells have concentration. 5e concentration greatly limits the power of the caster, and in particular buffing, debuffing, and area spells which seem to have gotten a good piece of the concentration rules.As a review of the 5e concentration rules:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cast a concentration spell and end concentration on your previous spell, can only be concentrating on one concentration spell at a time.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Struck by damage and end concentration on your spell unless you make a CON save (DC is 10 + 1/2 damage).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Environmental effect and end concentration on your spell unless you make a CON save (DC 10).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Incapacitated and end concentration on your spell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dead and end concentration on your spell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Choose to end concentration of your spell (no action).</li> </ul>3eIt really is not that much different. The big differences are many more concentration spells and incapacitation ends concentration automatically.Casting a spell is automatic in 5e. You do not need to make a concentration check to cast spells anymore. If you are not incapacitated (no actions or reactions) you can cast. There is no readying an action to disrupt the casting of a spell. Cast in a tremendous storm no problem (DC 10). You can even cast instantaneous spells while underwater it appears now without a hitch (DC 10?).The proposal: You can concentrate on any number of spells. You do not automatically lose concentration when incapacitated but you have to make a DC 15 CON save to maintain spells if incapacitated. Also, if you are struck while casting a spell (concentration or other) you have to make a CON save DC 10 + 1/2 damage or the spell is cancelled. If you are struck, you have to make a concentration save for each of your spells you are concentrating on.A hybrid proposal:Each creature has on buff "slot". They can only receive one buff at a time. They have to maintain it. Not the caster. So if the wizard casts invisibility on the rogue, the rogue maintains the invisibility not the wizard. If the cleric casts bless those it affects maintain the concentration on it. Fly cast on the fighter must be maintained be them. Debuffs and area spells with concentration work the same as before. Only one. To make this clear the "buff" slot is separate from the only one debuff or area spell. A cleric could cast bless and still maintain a bestow curse or blade barrier because the bless fills the "buff" slot and the bestow curse or blade barrier occupies the "concentration" slot.</blockquote>

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