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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8171256" data-attributes="member: 93670">no it is a way that a medium armor &amp; shield proficient class with spellcasting can badly use concentration &amp; spell slot to get the equivalent of...studded leather or hide with 14dex &amp; a shield, chain shirt with 12 dex &amp; a +1 shield, scalemail or breastplate with zero dex &amp; a shield, half plate &amp; 12 dex &amp; no shield, ring mail with any dex &amp; a shield, or chainmail with any dex &amp; no shield.&nbsp; Coincidentally that's also the same ac as a level 1 barbarian in starting gear with 16 dex/16 con, a level 1 cleric with a domain that allows them to choose to start with chainmail, a level 1 fighter who chooses to start with chainmail&nbsp; or chooses leather armor with a shield &amp; 16 dex, a level 1 monk with 16dex &amp; 16 wis, a level 1 paladin using the starting chainmail but not the shield they could have started with, a level 1 ranger with 14 dex &amp; the scalemail they started with, a level 1 draconic sorcerer with 16 dex or 12 dex &amp; a shield....When your using a second level spell slot to get the AC obtained that cheaply or by that many classes at level 1&nbsp; there's nothing to worry about being tossed aside&nbsp; I'm playing a dwarf wizard who just got level 3 in a game&nbsp; a friend asked me to join... his ac with some trash that was found at level?[spoiler=&quot;spoiler alert&quot;][ATTACH=full]131244[/ATTACH][/spoiler]If a second level spell that can be cast twice a day starting at level three isn't allowed to equal the starting gear of so many classes.. at what point are casters allowed to contribute without slighting non-casters?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8171256, member: 93670"] no it is a way that a medium armor & shield proficient class with spellcasting can badly use concentration & spell slot to get the equivalent of... studded leather or hide with 14dex & a shield, chain shirt with 12 dex & a +1 shield, scalemail or breastplate with zero dex & a shield, half plate & 12 dex & no shield, ring mail with any dex & a shield, or chainmail with any dex & no shield. Coincidentally that's also the same ac as a level 1 barbarian in starting gear with 16 dex/16 con, a level 1 cleric with a domain that allows them to choose to start with chainmail, a level 1 fighter who chooses to start with chainmail or chooses leather armor with a shield & 16 dex, a level 1 monk with 16dex & 16 wis, a level 1 paladin using the starting chainmail but not the shield they could have started with, a level 1 ranger with 14 dex & the scalemail they started with, a level 1 draconic sorcerer with 16 dex or 12 dex & a shield.... When your using a second level spell slot to get the AC obtained that cheaply or by that many classes at level 1 there's nothing to worry about being tossed aside I'm playing a dwarf wizard who just got level 3 in a game a friend asked me to join... his ac with some trash that was found at level? [spoiler="spoiler alert"] [ATTACH type="full"]131244[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] If a second level spell that can be cast twice a day starting at level three isn't allowed to equal the [I]starting[/I] gear of so many classes.. at what point are casters allowed to contribute without slighting non-casters? [/QUOTE]

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