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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fredrik Svanberg" data-source="post: 4382057" data-attributes="member: 12996">That's not necessary at all. I just don't like feats that remove options when you take them. I could have said that the powers become ranged and dexterity-dependent INSTEAD of melee and strength-dependent but then I realized that a paladin who goes for ranged weapons is not likely to have a lot of strength - because there are so many other abilities that he will need - so if he decides to pull out a sword and hit someone he would probably not be as good at that as if he kept shooting. Or used one of his many charisma-based prayers. My idea was that you would build your character to be good at melee or ranged fighting, or you could be somewhat decent in both. You're probably not going to be able to afford both high strength, high dexterity and high charisma, and preferably medium-high wisdom and constitution as well, that you will want if you're a paladin. It pretty much balances itself.Not really. It might work for some concepts but my idea is a character who uses the bow almost exclusively. I didn't check how much damage a ranged Paladin would be able to do compared to a ranger. I would be surprised if a paladin could outdamage a ranger on a regular basis - the ranger would also have a magical bow, after all. Furthermore I wouldn't play a concept like this if there was a ranger in the party already - it would be like wearing the same dress to the party, and I think the paladin player would be overshadowed by the ranger to the point where they wonder why they bothered with it at all.But you won't be able to do all those things. You will be able to become good at maybe two of those things, with the limited ability scores that we have. Or somewhat decent at three or four of them. But you won't be able to get really good at all of them.That would be the one thing that a ranged paladin would be slightly better at than the regular paladin. Of course, Divine Challenge has a limited range so once you do the trick, marking and running away then attacking, your target is out of range and you will have to get closer or pick a different target next round.What I think is really nice is that the ranged paladin can hold his ground better than the current one, and grab aggro better. Mark an enemy 5 squares away and throw something at him. No need to move anywhere, the enemy will come to you, probably, and you can keep blocking a chokepoint or stay close to the warlord while drawing the enemy attacks to you. It was because I didn't want to make a whole new class that I came up with this idea. The reason I started looking into this in the first place was because I was building a bunch of characters and one of them was a conversion of an old 3.5 paladin who used a bow and had the ranged smite feats and everything. I took a casual glance at the paladin and noticed that the powers would work just as well at range. I'm probably not going to actually play that character because I have a ton of other ideas to try out first and only limited time to play them all.</blockquote>

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