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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 5991265" data-attributes="member: 50987">Yes, I am aware that one player's results will not be typical.&nbsp; And that maybe I'm playing the game wrong because I allowed it to happen in the first place (not watching their rolls? infinite rerolls? Come on.)&nbsp; I've had a problem with the 4d6 method for ages now.&nbsp; But the swingy rolled values are only a third of what concerns me.&nbsp; Read on...I was unaware that the ability scores are capped at twenty; I guess I overlooked that in the playtest rules.&nbsp; My bad.&nbsp; Even so, if a first-level human fighter can have a Strength of 20, why does a Troll (a Large-sized, 7th level Giant) only have an 18?&nbsp; I can't be the only one who thinks this is unbalanced.Now this is the part that really bugs me, so I'm going to emphasize it so that people won't fixate on probability curves and standard deviations...So let's take the dice out of it altogether.&nbsp; Let's say you don't roll scores at all, and everybody uses the array provided in the guide.&nbsp; Essentially, you are telling the players &quot;All humans get to start with an 18&quot; and Fighters automatically have the same strength scores as Trolls.&nbsp; I can't be the only one who thinks this is unbalanced.&nbsp; And sloppy.But as they say, the proof is in the pudding.&nbsp; We will be running our next playtest on Friday night; hopefully these high numbers aren't as game-breaking as they look.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 5991265, member: 50987"] Yes, I am aware that one player's results will not be typical. And that maybe I'm playing the game wrong because I allowed it to happen in the first place (not watching their rolls? infinite rerolls? Come on.) I've had a problem with the 4d6 method for ages now. But the swingy rolled values are only a third of what concerns me. Read on... I was unaware that the ability scores are capped at twenty; I guess I overlooked that in the playtest rules. My bad. Even so, if a first-level human fighter can have a Strength of 20, why does a Troll (a Large-sized, 7th level Giant) only have an 18? I can't be the only one who thinks this is unbalanced. Now this is the part that really bugs me, so I'm going to emphasize it so that people won't fixate on probability curves and standard deviations... [B]So let's take the dice out of it altogether. Let's say you don't roll scores at all, and everybody uses the array provided in the guide. Essentially, you are telling the players "All humans get to start with an 18" and Fighters automatically have the same strength scores as Trolls.[/B] I can't be the only one who thinks this is unbalanced. And sloppy. But as they say, the proof is in the pudding. We will be running our next playtest on Friday night; hopefully these high numbers aren't as game-breaking as they look. [/QUOTE]

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