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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4323746" data-attributes="member: 2020">The idea of a character coming from a school, and having been through a training program to reach 1st level, was in my thoughts here.  Along with further training for leveling.  Those concepts made perfect sense to me back in 2E, and I thought they made even more sense in 3E.  I thought that, in addition to a school enabling a character to obtain '1st level' perhaps the school enabled a character to obtain a 'package' of feats, to start the game with.  About 5 or 6 feats, in addition to those that could be chosen.  What kind of feats would have been in this 'package'?  Well, let me state what would not be in the package first:  'You get Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, and Whirlwind Attack, and you do not need a BAB +4 to have Whirlwind attack.'  No, that would not happen.  What would you get?  A character from a school that stressed endurance and perseverence, might obtain:  Endurance, Great Fortitude, Iron Will, Run, and Toughness.  A character from the cavalier school might gain:  Alertness, Endurance, Mounted Combat, Leadership, and one other feat related to being a cavalier.  A character from a rogue school might gain:  Alertness, Ambidexterity, Dodge, Lightning Reflexes, and Run.  A character from an academy of magic might gain:  Alertness, Combat Casting, Lightning Reflexes, maybe Ambidexterity, and one other feat related to wizardry.  Note that I never included such feats as Mobility (the 2nd feat in a chain), nor Improved Initiative (a powerful feat), Power Attack (a strong fighter feat), or metamagic feats (strong wizard feats.)  Those feats are for the characters to take.  The feats I choose were feats I seriously doubt anyone takes if they can help it, but which add to the roleplaying and depth aspects of the character.  I mean, if I were playing a rogue, and I had 2 starting feats, I would take Improved Initiative and Point Blank Shot.  Although Alertness, Lightning Reflexes, Quick Draw, Run, and others make sense for a rogue, I don't have feats to waste.  So I don't take those feats.  At 3rd level, I take Precise Shot.  I want to shoot down my opponents with a Sneak Attack.  Again, I don't take those other feats (Alertness, etc.) because I don't have feats to waste.  Just my take here.  If a training school can make someone 1st level, I could see that school training the character in certain feats.  Great Cleave or Spring Attack or Quicken Spell?  No.  Alertness or Dodge or Iron Will?  Yes.  -  As for the monsters, yes they would have extra feats.  More work for me, the DM, yes.  But I do want to give my players the most enjoyable experience I can, and if they are all clamoring for feats I would go through the extra work.  That would even out the CR challenge right there, so I wouldn't have to have extra monsters or have them use more dastardly tactics in order to even things out.  So that's extra work I wouldn't have to do, in this case.</blockquote>

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