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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 4351175" data-attributes="member: 2020">He has the Fighter Starting Feats, plus:Alertness, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Great Fortitude, Improved Initiative, Leadership, Mounted Combat, Trample, Ride-By Attack, Spirited Charge, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, Quick Draw, Skill Focus - Riding, Skill Focus - Long Sword, Skill Focus - Lance, Weapon Specialization - Long Sword, Weapon Specialization - Lance, Toughness, Close Quarters Fighting, Eyes in the Back of Your Head, Hold the Line, Improved Combat Expertise, Improved Shield Bash, Shield Charge, Shield Slam, Combat Intuition, Danger Sense, Expert Tactician, and possibly Quick Reconnoiter.  Obviously, I can't give a 10th level cavalier all of these feats under the RAW.  Under the RAW, I could give him 2 starting feats (he's human), 3 more feats (3rd, 6th, 9th), and 6 fighter feats (1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th.)  So I could give him a total of 11 feats under the RAW.  The list of feats above is 29 to 30 feats long!  So, I have to use a different system to create this particular 10th level cavalier.  Basically, he's going to need 3 feats per level, on average, to pull off this stunt (x 10 levels.)  That Feats Galore Option of mine would grant him 2 starting feats, plus 3 feats per level.  But he would advance only half as fast in levels (he would have been 20th level, had he not sacrificed 10 levels to obtain 20 feats.)  He could take Hrothgar Rannúlfr's system (see earlier in this thread) where you instead of leveling, you gain 5 feats (but you are considered a level higher for purposes of Character Level, experience points and advancement.)   He'd count as 14th level, for he'd have to take the option 4 times to gain the extra 20 feats.  Or, he could be one of those really legendary characters, almost superheroic, a man who adventures on his own, and is already a legendary champion.  In this case, the Extreme Feat Option would grant him the 30 feats above (he'd definitely have Quick Reconnoiter in this case), and he'd still have another 24 feats to choose from - for his other class (he's gestalt, in this case - being an honorable cavalier, we must hope he choose an honorable alternate class to pursue.   The cavalier-paladin, that mighty class from the 1E Unearthed Arcana, might be duplicated in this fashion (if you want such powerful critters in your game  : )  )  One class would be cavalier, and the other paladin, in the gestalt (both being considered one 'class' for Character Level, experience, and advancement.)    So, in this case he had with 54 feats (it is, after all, called the Extreme Feat Option), he has used 30 for his cavalier side, and must figure out how to spend his remaining 24 feats.  Hrothgar Rannúlfr's system could duplicate this too.  If the cavalier-paladin started as a regular gestalt (cavalier as one class, paladin as the other), and he sacrificed 8 levels, he could gain the extra 40 feats on top of his 11 allowed feats, for a total of 51 feats.  Of course, he would be considered 18th level for purposes of what he was fighting, while only being 10th level, so his would be a very hard life (or, very slow advancement.)  Or ...   (shrugs)  I could simply allow the 2 starting feats plus 3 feats per level (on top of fighter and metamagic feats.)   For free.  No strings attached.  Then he'd have 32 feats + 6 fighter feats available at 10th level, and could have the 29 to 30 feats above.  3 feats per level would allow for a truly feat rich game.</blockquote>

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