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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2418389" data-attributes="member: 2020">In the standard world of D&D 3.5, you won't find spells like these lying around just anywhere.  You wouldn't find them in libraries at Greyhawk, or Palanthus, or Waterdeep.  The wizards of Nyrond, Cormyr, and the Tower of High Sorcery at Wayreth don't have these copies.  You won't find these spells even in such exotic lands as Silvanesti, Greater Aerdi, or Thay.  Why?  Because the few mages lucky enough to have copies of these extraordinary spells will not sell them, copy them, or reveal that they exist.  They will use them, but typically dead targets do not tell tales.  And if captured and the secrets of these spells tortured out of them, the wizards typically had Contingencies to destroy all their spellbooks, should they die.  And even if somehow these spells are obtained from the wizards in question, those obtaining them will also keep their existence secret (if they won't, someone will take the spells from them by force, who will keep them secret ...)  Only in places such as Halruaa, Candlekeep, the Valley of the Mage, the Secret Order of Ivid, the Circle of Eight, and among certain elite cliques at the Tower of High Sorcery are such spells common.  Also, if you are so foolish as to disturb Larloch in the Forgotten Realms, Acererak in Greyhawk, or Fistandantilus on Krynn, you can find lots of spells like these.  You now face the minor problem of talking these mages into giving you copies of the spells in question.  Good luck!  Your best bet, however, is to have the misfortune of stumbling into the Alternate Reality where these spells are commonplace, and were always commonplace.  In this case, you can easily acquire all the potent magic you want.  And once you get back to your original reality, you are going to be very popular.  Why, you are going to be so popular that every mage (and every lord and king) on the continent is going to want to talk to you.  Won't that be great?</blockquote>

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