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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6989131" data-attributes="member: 996">Elipsis added.I felt like addressing it would be an unwelcome tangent, since the point was INT adding languages/ranks in 1e/3e, and not doing so in 5e.But, here' goes...While 4e didn't have Add. Lang or bonus ranks for INT, it did make INT more useful by using it to calculate AC &amp; REF when higher than DEX, and did allow an INT-based character to make effective INT-based attacks, even with a weapon, using feats like Intelligent Blademaster or, a bit later, Melee Training.&nbsp; Plenty of other feats and utilities allowed INT or INT-based skills to be swapped into other rolls.&nbsp; INT was not only a primary stat for the usual suspects like Wizard, but a secondary stat for others, like the Warlock &amp; Warlord in the PH1, for instance.&nbsp; On balance, it didn't seem like mistreatment.&nbsp; Indeed, to bring it back around to your issue with 5e under-serving INT, you could also lift some of those functions from 4e, if you wanted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6989131, member: 996"] Elipsis added. I felt like addressing it would be an unwelcome tangent, since the point was INT adding languages/ranks in 1e/3e, and not doing so in 5e. But, here' goes... While 4e didn't have Add. Lang or bonus ranks for INT, it did make INT more useful by using it to calculate AC & REF when higher than DEX, and did allow an INT-based character to make effective INT-based attacks, even with a weapon, using feats like Intelligent Blademaster or, a bit later, Melee Training. Plenty of other feats and utilities allowed INT or INT-based skills to be swapped into other rolls. INT was not only a primary stat for the usual suspects like Wizard, but a secondary stat for others, like the Warlock & Warlord in the PH1, for instance. On balance, it didn't seem like mistreatment. Indeed, to bring it back around to your issue with 5e under-serving INT, you could also lift some of those functions from 4e, if you wanted. [/QUOTE]

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