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Concurrent initiative variant; Everybody declares/Everybody resolves [WAS Simultaneous Initiative]
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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7030589" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>Been away for a bit, but this seems like a good place to jump in. </p><p></p><p>If this were my game, it always depends on the circumstances, but we probably wouldn't make a Dexterity (Initiative) check here.</p><p></p><p>1) If the arrow is nocked and ready to shoot, then the arrow is released as the goblin is moving to hide.</p><p></p><p>-If the goblin is simply hiding (like in brush), then the arrow hits as originally rolled. This is because when the goblin was targeted (and the arrow loosed) it could be seen. Hiding doesn't change the trajectory of the arrow (or the goblin). </p><p></p><p>-If the goblin is ducking behind cover, though, then the chance of hitting the goblin is greatly reduced if it gets their first. In that case, they'd make a check and if the goblin wins, the effect of cover is calculated against the archer's attack (although since it was a 20, it's going to hit anyway, but let's assume it was a 19 instead).</p><p></p><p>The archer can't change his mind, since he's making the attack as the goblin is ducking into concealment/cover.</p><p></p><p>2) If the arrow was not nocked and ready to shoot, then it depends on how far the goblin has to go before it attempts to hide. Nocking an arrow and aiming takes longer than you might think.</p><p></p><p>In which case the goblin would be hidden before the shot is taken (and applicable penalties apply, since it cannot be seen when the shot is aimed and taken), and the archer could choose an alternate target.</p><p></p><p>The point is, when you're working through action like this on the fly and in your head(s), it needs to be fairly simple and logical. In general, my approach as a DM is to reward strategic thinking and actions (such as ducking behind cover), but also to be able to react on the fly when appropriate. Dexterity (Initiative) checks should be rare.</p><p></p><p>There's certainly not a problem if you want to make the opposed Dexterity (Initiative) check here, but we wouldn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 7030589, member: 6778044"] Been away for a bit, but this seems like a good place to jump in. If this were my game, it always depends on the circumstances, but we probably wouldn't make a Dexterity (Initiative) check here. 1) If the arrow is nocked and ready to shoot, then the arrow is released as the goblin is moving to hide. -If the goblin is simply hiding (like in brush), then the arrow hits as originally rolled. This is because when the goblin was targeted (and the arrow loosed) it could be seen. Hiding doesn't change the trajectory of the arrow (or the goblin). -If the goblin is ducking behind cover, though, then the chance of hitting the goblin is greatly reduced if it gets their first. In that case, they'd make a check and if the goblin wins, the effect of cover is calculated against the archer's attack (although since it was a 20, it's going to hit anyway, but let's assume it was a 19 instead). The archer can't change his mind, since he's making the attack as the goblin is ducking into concealment/cover. 2) If the arrow was not nocked and ready to shoot, then it depends on how far the goblin has to go before it attempts to hide. Nocking an arrow and aiming takes longer than you might think. In which case the goblin would be hidden before the shot is taken (and applicable penalties apply, since it cannot be seen when the shot is aimed and taken), and the archer could choose an alternate target. The point is, when you're working through action like this on the fly and in your head(s), it needs to be fairly simple and logical. In general, my approach as a DM is to reward strategic thinking and actions (such as ducking behind cover), but also to be able to react on the fly when appropriate. Dexterity (Initiative) checks should be rare. There's certainly not a problem if you want to make the opposed Dexterity (Initiative) check here, but we wouldn't. [/QUOTE]
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