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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1771699" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>I don't think I'd increase the starting damage to 3d6 - that would move it into the "1d6 per pp" territory and its other factors would make it to strong at that point.</p><p></p><p>It might be worth increasing the base damage to 2d6 and then +1d6 per 2pp. The interesting line in its augmentation though is the ability to also target more than one individual. I think it works out that the maximum total damage caused comes when the augmentation is split roughly equally between extra dice damage and extra targets</p><p></p><p>Let's see, as written:</p><p></p><p>5pp </p><p>2d6 to 1 target or 1d6 to 2 targets</p><p></p><p>7pp</p><p>3d6 to 1 target, 2d6 to 2 targets or 1d6 to 3 targets</p><p></p><p>9pp</p><p>4d6 to 1 target, 3d6 to 2 targets, 2d6 to 3 targets...</p><p></p><p>11pp</p><p>5d6 to 1 target, 4d6 to 2 targets, 3d6 to 3 targets, 2d6 to 4 targets</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>19pp</p><p>9d6 to 1 target, 8d6 to 2 targets, 7d6 to 3 targets, 6d6 to 4 targets, 5d6 to 5 targets...</p><p></p><p>The 11pp example is particularly interesting - it could do 5d6 force damage to one individual, or 1d6 force damage to 5 individuals (basically equivalent to 1st level MM from a 9th level caster, but this is the equivalent of a 5th level power) - but it could also do 3d6 force damage to 3 targets, for a maximum damage potential of 9d6 inflicted against an opposing party, in situations allowing it - better than you could achieve with magic missile. 4 levels better though?</p><p></p><p>It seems that it is a cool power but not terribly effective. At higher levels the fact that there is no energy resistance is good, but even cast as a 9th level power (17pp) it will only be doing 8d6 damage. A wizard could use MM + quickened MM to do == 10d6 force damage to a single target back at 11th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 1771699, member: 114"] I don't think I'd increase the starting damage to 3d6 - that would move it into the "1d6 per pp" territory and its other factors would make it to strong at that point. It might be worth increasing the base damage to 2d6 and then +1d6 per 2pp. The interesting line in its augmentation though is the ability to also target more than one individual. I think it works out that the maximum total damage caused comes when the augmentation is split roughly equally between extra dice damage and extra targets Let's see, as written: 5pp 2d6 to 1 target or 1d6 to 2 targets 7pp 3d6 to 1 target, 2d6 to 2 targets or 1d6 to 3 targets 9pp 4d6 to 1 target, 3d6 to 2 targets, 2d6 to 3 targets... 11pp 5d6 to 1 target, 4d6 to 2 targets, 3d6 to 3 targets, 2d6 to 4 targets ... 19pp 9d6 to 1 target, 8d6 to 2 targets, 7d6 to 3 targets, 6d6 to 4 targets, 5d6 to 5 targets... The 11pp example is particularly interesting - it could do 5d6 force damage to one individual, or 1d6 force damage to 5 individuals (basically equivalent to 1st level MM from a 9th level caster, but this is the equivalent of a 5th level power) - but it could also do 3d6 force damage to 3 targets, for a maximum damage potential of 9d6 inflicted against an opposing party, in situations allowing it - better than you could achieve with magic missile. 4 levels better though? It seems that it is a cool power but not terribly effective. At higher levels the fact that there is no energy resistance is good, but even cast as a 9th level power (17pp) it will only be doing 8d6 damage. A wizard could use MM + quickened MM to do == 10d6 force damage to a single target back at 11th level. [/QUOTE]
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