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<blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2219605" data-attributes="member: 30610"><p>And fear never, ever, ever causes you to do dumb things, or inadvisable things, or less than optimal things?</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, are you certain that every zombie and skeleton has the tactical finesse to understand the concept of withdrawing? The way I read it, turned creatures, particularly mindless ones, aren't interested in anything but getting the heck away from the divine caster. And they are so interested in that, in fact, that it distracts them from defending themselves adequately.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, I will agree that nothing says EXPLICITLY that they double move when they "flee" rather than withdrawing. This is therefore a DM judgment. I simply happen to think it makes more sense for them to "flee" via double moving instead of withdrawing, particularly in the case of unintelligent undead who, it can be argued, cannot even grasp the difference.</p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, let's examine another assertion, namely that a double move is exactly the same as withdrawing. Here's a quote from Withdraw:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure that you can double move while blinded.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moritheil, post: 2219605, member: 30610"] And fear never, ever, ever causes you to do dumb things, or inadvisable things, or less than optimal things? Furthermore, are you certain that every zombie and skeleton has the tactical finesse to understand the concept of withdrawing? The way I read it, turned creatures, particularly mindless ones, aren't interested in anything but getting the heck away from the divine caster. And they are so interested in that, in fact, that it distracts them from defending themselves adequately. Now, I will agree that nothing says EXPLICITLY that they double move when they "flee" rather than withdrawing. This is therefore a DM judgment. I simply happen to think it makes more sense for them to "flee" via double moving instead of withdrawing, particularly in the case of unintelligent undead who, it can be argued, cannot even grasp the difference. Nevertheless, let's examine another assertion, namely that a double move is exactly the same as withdrawing. Here's a quote from Withdraw: I'm pretty sure that you can double move while blinded. [/QUOTE]
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