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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7786334" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>I understand this is a + thread. And I’m not here to dump on gnomes. I actually like them, when they are portrayed in interesting ways. But I feel like by presenting an argument against the idea of races needing to fill niches, you’re inviting counter-argument. And I don’t think you’re representing the idea fairly at all. There can be more than one “small, likeable” race just like there can be more than one “big, strong” race. Critique of gnomes not having enough of a unique identity isn’t about insuring that there only be one race for each broad archetype. It’s about a desire for each race to be interesting in some way that is uniquely its own. Calling them “silly dwarves,” “small elves,” “magical halflings,” or whatever else isn’t meant literally, its a shorthand for “I don’t see any compelling reason to play a gnome over a (dwarf/elf/halfling/whatever).” The critique behind it isn’t that they’re too similar to other races, it’s that they don’t have anything going for them that is distinctly “gnome-like.”</p><p></p><p>Now, at this point I feel it’s important to clarify - I don’t actually think this critique of gnomes holds water, personally. While this has been an issue of some previous iterations of gnomes, I do think in their current form they stand out well enough on their own. If anything, I’d argue that in 5e, Firbolgs are the ones that are “just giant (forest) gnomes.” Again, I’m not trying to yuck on your gnome yum here, I’m just arguing against the suggestion that it’s silly to want races to fill unique niches. Kindly don’t yuck that yum of mine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7786334, member: 6779196"] I understand this is a + thread. And I’m not here to dump on gnomes. I actually like them, when they are portrayed in interesting ways. But I feel like by presenting an argument against the idea of races needing to fill niches, you’re inviting counter-argument. And I don’t think you’re representing the idea fairly at all. There can be more than one “small, likeable” race just like there can be more than one “big, strong” race. Critique of gnomes not having enough of a unique identity isn’t about insuring that there only be one race for each broad archetype. It’s about a desire for each race to be interesting in some way that is uniquely its own. Calling them “silly dwarves,” “small elves,” “magical halflings,” or whatever else isn’t meant literally, its a shorthand for “I don’t see any compelling reason to play a gnome over a (dwarf/elf/halfling/whatever).” The critique behind it isn’t that they’re too similar to other races, it’s that they don’t have anything going for them that is distinctly “gnome-like.” Now, at this point I feel it’s important to clarify - I don’t actually think this critique of gnomes holds water, personally. While this has been an issue of some previous iterations of gnomes, I do think in their current form they stand out well enough on their own. If anything, I’d argue that in 5e, Firbolgs are the ones that are “just giant (forest) gnomes.” Again, I’m not trying to yuck on your gnome yum here, I’m just arguing against the suggestion that it’s silly to want races to fill unique niches. Kindly don’t yuck that yum of mine. [/QUOTE]
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