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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6717191" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>While I can appreciate the feeling, [MENTION=1288]Mouseferatu[/MENTION], I think the matter is less "nostalgia" per se, and more a matter of having your memories blend together, if that makes sense.</p><p></p><p>You remember all the good times you've had gaming. All the cool stuff you did, all the times that the limitations of Vancian casting forced you to do something unexpectedly awesome (like, as noted, the offensive use of <em>knock</em>). The totally legitimate halo of joy surrounding your memories rubs off on all of its component parts. That's not nostalgia--pining for what once was--so much as "I remember good things, and this is a thing that happened <em>with</em> those good things, so I remember it fondly."</p><p></p><p>But, at least for me, the Vancian side of earlier editions is pretty clearly not the <em>cause</em> of the good memories I've got. It's entirely possible that your good memories go back further than mine (I actually played only a couple of 3.5e campaigns, and none at all of 2e or earlier), which would more deeply cement their association...but IMO it's purely correlation, not causation. Your positive D&D memories are correlated with memories of Vancian casting, and over such a long period that it is very tempting to argue that there is, to <em>some</em> degree, a causative relationship. I just think that--particularly if you aren't actually willing to "go back"--it's pretty clearly just two things which happened to occur together, during times when you were doing something you loved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6717191, member: 6790260"] While I can appreciate the feeling, [MENTION=1288]Mouseferatu[/MENTION], I think the matter is less "nostalgia" per se, and more a matter of having your memories blend together, if that makes sense. You remember all the good times you've had gaming. All the cool stuff you did, all the times that the limitations of Vancian casting forced you to do something unexpectedly awesome (like, as noted, the offensive use of [I]knock[/I]). The totally legitimate halo of joy surrounding your memories rubs off on all of its component parts. That's not nostalgia--pining for what once was--so much as "I remember good things, and this is a thing that happened [I]with[/I] those good things, so I remember it fondly." But, at least for me, the Vancian side of earlier editions is pretty clearly not the [I]cause[/I] of the good memories I've got. It's entirely possible that your good memories go back further than mine (I actually played only a couple of 3.5e campaigns, and none at all of 2e or earlier), which would more deeply cement their association...but IMO it's purely correlation, not causation. Your positive D&D memories are correlated with memories of Vancian casting, and over such a long period that it is very tempting to argue that there is, to [I]some[/I] degree, a causative relationship. I just think that--particularly if you aren't actually willing to "go back"--it's pretty clearly just two things which happened to occur together, during times when you were doing something you loved. [/QUOTE]
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