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<blockquote data-quote="Wisdom Penalty" data-source="post: 4426556" data-attributes="member: 13287"><p>In the air of <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />-for-tat, I'll throw in my two coppers too. Earlier, I had gotten pretty zealous defending 4e - not because I knew the system (it wasn't even out yet), but because my nerd rage grew against some of those who ranted against it. I, in effect, became pro-4e because I was anti the anti-4e crowd and the way I saw them doing business. Not <em>all</em> of them, mind you - just some of them.</p><p></p><p>I found myself thinking and talking negatively about a game (3E) that had given me and my mates nearly a decade of great D&D. Stoopid. I found myself railing against "flaws" in 3e that I didn't realize were flaws until 4e came along. Stoopid. I'd let posts by BryonD and Darrin, just to name a couple, send me over the top. I began to ritually scar myself and torment the neighbors' cats. Again - stoopid.</p><p></p><p>And I got banned for my antics. Twice. By Piratecat.</p><p></p><p>Ahh...the good old days. </p><p></p><p>Now I have 4e, and now I've played it, and now I realize there's a number of things I don't like about it. Do I think it's an improvement? Of course I do - otherwise I wouldn't be playing it. But is it perfect? Certainly not. Every one of us has an image of what the "perfect" game would be; for you it's BECM. That's Kool and his proverbial Gang.</p><p></p><p>I also got quite bitter at Paizo because I confused the company with the community on their boards. Not smart - sorta a large <em>ad hominem</em> on my part.</p><p></p><p>I have since grown fatter and more mellow. I would welcome Paizo into the 4on world, and would dance cartwheels if someone - anyone! - would produce a set of real, actual, paper <strong>magazines</strong> in support of 4e. </p><p></p><p>As I have stated, I don't think 4e was a finished product coming out of the gate. I think there are too few powers, too few rituals, too few magic items, and too few options. On an edition that prides itself on giving players options, I felt it has failed. Obviously, these concerns of mine are being addressed as supplemental content drifts down the pike - but I truly feel the game, as designed, needed to have a PHB and MM twice the size of the ones initially offered. Perhaps a good business move by WotC to limit it, but a bad move for my demanding consumerism (and my wallet).</p><p></p><p>Play what you like, ignore the constant nay-sayers, gloss over the bitterness in some posts, and be kind to animals. The world will be a better place.</p><p></p><p>WP</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wisdom Penalty, post: 4426556, member: 13287"] In the air of :):):)-for-tat, I'll throw in my two coppers too. Earlier, I had gotten pretty zealous defending 4e - not because I knew the system (it wasn't even out yet), but because my nerd rage grew against some of those who ranted against it. I, in effect, became pro-4e because I was anti the anti-4e crowd and the way I saw them doing business. Not [i]all[/i] of them, mind you - just some of them. I found myself thinking and talking negatively about a game (3E) that had given me and my mates nearly a decade of great D&D. Stoopid. I found myself railing against "flaws" in 3e that I didn't realize were flaws until 4e came along. Stoopid. I'd let posts by BryonD and Darrin, just to name a couple, send me over the top. I began to ritually scar myself and torment the neighbors' cats. Again - stoopid. And I got banned for my antics. Twice. By Piratecat. Ahh...the good old days. Now I have 4e, and now I've played it, and now I realize there's a number of things I don't like about it. Do I think it's an improvement? Of course I do - otherwise I wouldn't be playing it. But is it perfect? Certainly not. Every one of us has an image of what the "perfect" game would be; for you it's BECM. That's Kool and his proverbial Gang. I also got quite bitter at Paizo because I confused the company with the community on their boards. Not smart - sorta a large [i]ad hominem[/i] on my part. I have since grown fatter and more mellow. I would welcome Paizo into the 4on world, and would dance cartwheels if someone - anyone! - would produce a set of real, actual, paper [b]magazines[/b] in support of 4e. As I have stated, I don't think 4e was a finished product coming out of the gate. I think there are too few powers, too few rituals, too few magic items, and too few options. On an edition that prides itself on giving players options, I felt it has failed. Obviously, these concerns of mine are being addressed as supplemental content drifts down the pike - but I truly feel the game, as designed, needed to have a PHB and MM twice the size of the ones initially offered. Perhaps a good business move by WotC to limit it, but a bad move for my demanding consumerism (and my wallet). Play what you like, ignore the constant nay-sayers, gloss over the bitterness in some posts, and be kind to animals. The world will be a better place. WP [/QUOTE]
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