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<blockquote data-quote="redrick" data-source="post: 6511313" data-attributes="member: 6777696"><p>Well, to be fair, we were upfront when we started this module that it's got that, to quote Necromancer's new book line, "1e feel." And, of course, that 1e feel is that bad things happen. This adventure, and many others of its flavor, are full of save-or-die effects triggered possibly without warning. So, while the specific effects might be a little bit more dramatic than because of 5e mechanics (I'd have to dust off my copy of Moldvay to compare), the general effect is still the same as intended: <strong>permanent changes to player characters.</strong> And, yes, by the same token, there are other magics out there also able to affect permanent changes to characters, and hopefully undo the damages done already. An NPC has suggested this to the PC already, though she was personally unable to help him.</p><p></p><p>But hey, I'm not here to defend my generally short-sighted actions as a GM. I'm sure we'll find a way to keep making the game fun for everybody, and, if we don't, our group will go down in flames and we'll never speak to each other again. I'm here looking for solace in numbers from other GMs who, for better or for worse, screwed over a player character, didn't retcon it, didn't put a wand of wishing in the next room and then went home and felt bad about it all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redrick, post: 6511313, member: 6777696"] Well, to be fair, we were upfront when we started this module that it's got that, to quote Necromancer's new book line, "1e feel." And, of course, that 1e feel is that bad things happen. This adventure, and many others of its flavor, are full of save-or-die effects triggered possibly without warning. So, while the specific effects might be a little bit more dramatic than because of 5e mechanics (I'd have to dust off my copy of Moldvay to compare), the general effect is still the same as intended: [B]permanent changes to player characters.[/B] And, yes, by the same token, there are other magics out there also able to affect permanent changes to characters, and hopefully undo the damages done already. An NPC has suggested this to the PC already, though she was personally unable to help him. But hey, I'm not here to defend my generally short-sighted actions as a GM. I'm sure we'll find a way to keep making the game fun for everybody, and, if we don't, our group will go down in flames and we'll never speak to each other again. I'm here looking for solace in numbers from other GMs who, for better or for worse, screwed over a player character, didn't retcon it, didn't put a wand of wishing in the next room and then went home and felt bad about it all. [/QUOTE]
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