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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6580744"><p>Meh. I am frankly a bit tired of hearing this argument from people. I think you can't just reduce this to nostalgia, and I think it is a mistake to think of 4e as going forward while 5e is a step back. Brand identity is a real thing. You can't just make a game or a car in a vacuum, you do need to consider why people go to your brand in the first place. Personally D&D wasn't my first RPG, and I had a long history of playing other RPGS, not limiting my gaming to Dungeons and Dragons. So for me when I do play D&D, I want it to feel like D&D feels (because when I am in the mood for it, that is what I am after). If I want another kind of game, there are tons of options out there and I play plenty of them. From my point of view it wash' that 4E advanced the mechanics and I was afraid or unwilling to try (good lord did I try to play that game), it just kept mucking with how I liked to play. The new mechanics kept getting in the way for me. There are other games out there that do all kinds of new and interesting things that don't create that problem for me. In the end it was a confluence of different factors (didn't feel like D&D to me, the mechanics interfered with my approach to the game, the mechanics produced a kind of play I didn't enjoy---at least in terms of combat, etc). If others liked the system that is cool. I think it had some nice qualities and I do think it would have worked for a supers or wuxia style game....it just didn't feel right for the kind of fantasy I expect in D&D for me. If others were able to fit it to their desired fantasy campaign, again that is totally fine, I am not going to tell them they are wrong. I think when folks reduce those of us who didn't like 4E to "they couldn't think outside the box" or "they were just being nostalgic", it is a bit insulting and basically saying our tastes in games are incorrect.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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