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<blockquote data-quote="Stacie GmrGrl" data-source="post: 6580930" data-attributes="member: 86279">I do think that if the 4e engine was given another real edition of what everybody was learning, and if it had been available via OGL, we'd have seen it grow to its own thing and maybe we would be seeing RPGs like Guild Wars 2 and World of Warcraft brought back as an RPG because this systems core ideas are really good for games like that. The only RPG I can think of now using the ideas of 4e is Strike! which looks like 4e's tactical system mixed with a simple d6 die rolling system mixed with some system ideas from Apocalypse World.Its very interesting to see how impactful Wizards has been to the RPG hobby... They do 3e, and make the OGL... Hobby freaking booms and a lot of new companies and games get made. Then the d20 system starts to falter and they go with 4e's radical change...leading to a splintering off of the d20 system to be taken over completely by a different company and Pathfinder coming out along with the OSR games. We also see the Indie games explode in the last few years with Fate and Apocalypse World leading the way and 13th Age. Now we have 5e... How will Wizards change the hobby now... Everything they have done the last 15 years has had a profound impact for the better for the hobby as a whole. Its just ironic that all these benefits for the hobby has probably not been good for their own D&amp;D games overall. To me its ironic. Will 4e have been more successful if it used the OGL?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stacie GmrGrl, post: 6580930, member: 86279"] I do think that if the 4e engine was given another real edition of what everybody was learning, and if it had been available via OGL, we'd have seen it grow to its own thing and maybe we would be seeing RPGs like Guild Wars 2 and World of Warcraft brought back as an RPG because this systems core ideas are really good for games like that. The only RPG I can think of now using the ideas of 4e is Strike! which looks like 4e's tactical system mixed with a simple d6 die rolling system mixed with some system ideas from Apocalypse World. Its very interesting to see how impactful Wizards has been to the RPG hobby... They do 3e, and make the OGL... Hobby freaking booms and a lot of new companies and games get made. Then the d20 system starts to falter and they go with 4e's radical change...leading to a splintering off of the d20 system to be taken over completely by a different company and Pathfinder coming out along with the OSR games. We also see the Indie games explode in the last few years with Fate and Apocalypse World leading the way and 13th Age. Now we have 5e... How will Wizards change the hobby now... Everything they have done the last 15 years has had a profound impact for the better for the hobby as a whole. Its just ironic that all these benefits for the hobby has probably not been good for their own D&D games overall. To me its ironic. Will 4e have been more successful if it used the OGL? [/QUOTE]

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