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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6582291">I think that is a pretty big straw man. It is also the kind of reasoning one could turn right back at 4E players to try to make their preference into some sort of undesirable shortcoming. But in my view that isn't an honest discussion that considers peoples actual preferences, it is just a way of scoring points in an edition debate. I can say pretty clearly that nostalgia isn't much of a factor for me at all, for the reasons I have already given. Most people I know will give similar reasons. You can ignore the reasons people provide and continue with the straw man but understand why people find it a bit insulting and why they feel the need to respond in kind (because it is a fairly hostile posture to take in a discussion about what sort of mechanics and games we enjoy). Reducing a person's enjoyment to mere nostalgia isn't much different from reducing it to a lack of creativity, an inability to do simple math, or an overabundance of hormones.I would also just add that simply because someone can't express in words why they continue using an older mechanic over a newer one others may think is an improvement, doesn't mean they are being nostalgic. Most people are not that good at getting at the heart of why they like something. But just because they fail to express it or even understand it, doesn't make Nostalgia the only or most likely explanation.</blockquote>