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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6589050" data-attributes="member: 42582">Because it is no longer published? That said, consumers continue to subscribe to DDI. So some still are buying the game. You can also buy PDFs of the game from DriveThru RPG - I bought a PDF of the Rules Compendium a few weeks ago.With respect, this all seems a bit confused.There is no evidence that WotC lost money by publishing 4e. In fact, given that they were able to support 2 years of playtesting with minimal product releases during that period, there is plenty of evidence that 4e made money for WotC. (Generally, business units that have failed don't get given a two-year, profit-free grace period to have another go.)There is no doubt that WotC reached the view that it could make better returns publishing something other than 4e. It may even have been the case that, come 2012, continuing to publish 4e at a profit rather than a loss was not possible, although I think that is doubtful.But this doesn't show that it was a failure. Companies change product lines all the time in response to changes in demand. When I was a kid, my parents bought me the original Lego yellow castle set. Now when I go to a toy store to look for presents for children, the classic Lego castle is no longer on the shelves. That doesn't meant that it was a failure.Remember, WotC decided in 2008 that it was no longer financially feasible for them to continue to publish 3.5. But it would be odd to say that 3E D&amp;D was a failure!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6589050, member: 42582"] Because it is no longer published? That said, consumers continue to subscribe to DDI. So some still are buying the game. You can also buy PDFs of the game from DriveThru RPG - I bought a PDF of the Rules Compendium a few weeks ago. With respect, this all seems a bit confused. There is no evidence that WotC lost money by publishing 4e. In fact, given that they were able to support 2 years of playtesting with minimal product releases during that period, there is plenty of evidence that 4e [I]made[/I] money for WotC. (Generally, business units that have [I]failed[/I] don't get given a two-year, profit-free grace period to have another go.) There is no doubt that WotC reached the view that it could make better returns publishing something other than 4e. It may even have been the case that, come 2012, continuing to publish 4e at a profit rather than a loss was not possible, although I think that is doubtful. But this doesn't show that it was a failure. Companies change product lines all the time in response to changes in demand. When I was a kid, my parents bought me the original Lego yellow castle set. Now when I go to a toy store to look for presents for children, the classic Lego castle is no longer on the shelves. That doesn't meant that it was a [I]failure[/I]. Remember, WotC decided in 2008 that it was no longer financially feasible for them to continue to publish 3.5. But it would be odd to say that 3E D&D was a [I]failure[/I]! [/QUOTE]

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