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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6595841" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Pre 3E D&amp;D did have a lot of crap mechanics but the game was and still is fun. Also a lot of those crap mechanics can be dumped. Last time we played 2E we used BAB.&nbsp;I don't think 4E would be going strong if it lacked the D&amp;D name. The only reason I think it did as well as it did was because of the D&amp;D name. I don't think 13Age is doing that well these days for example. &nbsp;One key difference with older D&amp;D/OSR D&amp;D is a lto of people now days have not played it as 3E was the last great intake of new D&amp;D players. OSR D&amp;D is also immune to criticisms of it not being D&amp;D. As an OSR fan there is plenty wrong with it for example the layout of 1E or the art of early 1E product and even some of the mechanics THAC0 being a case in point. If someone points out these flaws I am likely to agree with them not deny their opionion or tell them they are not playing the game right which seems a common defence a few years ago on the interwebs. &nbsp;The biggest change to the game that I think is positive is 3Es use of ascending ACs as even on places like Dragonsfoot you will not get shot for dumping THAC0. Hell my prime recruit for new OSR players is 3E and Pathfinder players and using ascending ACs is the easiest thing to houserule into AD&amp;D/BECMI and makes getting new blood easier as well. I lost my last AD&amp;D holdout player last year every new OSR player I game with is not a traditional grognard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6595841, member: 6716779"] Pre 3E D&D did have a lot of crap mechanics but the game was and still is fun. Also a lot of those crap mechanics can be dumped. Last time we played 2E we used BAB. I don't think 4E would be going strong if it lacked the D&D name. The only reason I think it did as well as it did was because of the D&D name. I don't think 13Age is doing that well these days for example. One key difference with older D&D/OSR D&D is a lto of people now days have not played it as 3E was the last great intake of new D&D players. OSR D&D is also immune to criticisms of it not being D&D. As an OSR fan there is plenty wrong with it for example the layout of 1E or the art of early 1E product and even some of the mechanics THAC0 being a case in point. If someone points out these flaws I am likely to agree with them not deny their opionion or tell them they are not playing the game right which seems a common defence a few years ago on the interwebs. The biggest change to the game that I think is positive is 3Es use of ascending ACs as even on places like Dragonsfoot you will not get shot for dumping THAC0. Hell my prime recruit for new OSR players is 3E and Pathfinder players and using ascending ACs is the easiest thing to houserule into AD&D/BECMI and makes getting new blood easier as well. I lost my last AD&D holdout player last year every new OSR player I game with is not a traditional grognard. [/QUOTE]

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