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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6596037"><p>We could spend all day debating each individual mechanic on whether it is dissociative or not, but if the distinction between out of character and in character doesn't concern you, then probably not going to get us anywhere to talk about it. All I can say is I do find the concept of dissociative mechanics useful in design. I don't allow it to be a straight jacket but it is a helpful standard that results in the kinds of games I like to play. But I am not here to put every mechanic under the sun on trial for possibly being dissociative. Like I said, I don't think it is all that useful for things like edition wars. What I will comment on is wizards not healing doesn't strike me as all that connected to the concern. That is about setting assumptions. If you make a game world with divine and arcane magic and one is better suited to healing while the other is not, wizards not being able to heal doesn't raise any concerns for me on these grounds.</p></blockquote><p></p>