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<blockquote data-quote="Erechel" data-source="post: 6596248" data-attributes="member: 6784868">Thank you for the support, Wicht. Sometimes it's difficult to me to properly write in English, and maybe I'm being unintentionally rude (although in my first post I was rude, given the situation of being indirectly called dinosaur; but we Argentinans have a long tradition of being aggresive, not at all polite talkers. If you go through the Spanish speaking communities, you see it). And Pemerton, I never wanted to call every 4th edition player a munchkin, I was saying that the 4th edition designers took a more munchkinesqe approach to the game, that they embrace powergaming as a core factor in the game, forcing the gamers to do it as well. Maybe I did not say it in here, but I am prone to recognize great players and DMs in every game. But the game and the system actually matters to me, as the approach levels the game to places that I did not see as productive or good at all, as e.g. powergaming or metagaming. You may think the same way, as you consider &quot;munchkin&quot; as an insult. YMMV, but an actual munchkin may see it as a valid perspective to play, and be proud of being called that way (I've encountered several ones). I even play a game called Munchkin when I'm feeling in that mood. Or LoL. Or Diablo II. Only that I don't see it as productive in a TTRPG, where there is so much more than that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Erechel, post: 6596248, member: 6784868"] Thank you for the support, Wicht. Sometimes it's difficult to me to properly write in English, and maybe I'm being unintentionally rude (although in my first post I was rude, given the situation of being indirectly called dinosaur; but we Argentinans have a long tradition of being aggresive, not at all polite talkers. If you go through the Spanish speaking communities, you see it). And Pemerton, I never wanted to call every 4th edition player a munchkin, I was saying that the 4th edition designers took a more munchkinesqe approach to the game, that they [I]embrace[/I] powergaming as a core factor in the game, forcing the gamers to do it as well. Maybe I did not say it in here, but I am prone to recognize great players and DMs in every game. But the game and the system actually matters to me, as the approach levels the game to places that I did not see as productive or good at all, as e.g. powergaming or metagaming. You may think the same way, as you consider "munchkin" as an insult. YMMV, but an actual munchkin may see it as a valid perspective to play, and be proud of being called that way (I've encountered several ones). I even play a game called Munchkin when I'm feeling in that mood. Or LoL. Or Diablo II. Only that I don't see it as productive in a TTRPG, where there is so much more than that. [/QUOTE]

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