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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6597074">I think this illustrates how context can be a factor. It also points to something people who have been critical of 4E on grounds that it is dissociative have said a number of times: just because people are willing to accept some of the things in D&D that are already dissociative, that doesn't mean they want more dissociative stuff. We could quibble all day over whether these individual mechanics are dissociative and where they fall on that spectrum, but if we just accept for a moment that they are dissociative, that doesn't mean just because I accept those things (because they've been there so long I don't notice, or the trade off they present is worth it) that I want more mechanics like that added in. And it doesn't mean I want it in all situations. This would be like me saying to Remathilis "Well I see you like salsa, so lets put some salsa in your corn flakes. What, you think it's disgusting? But you just said you love salsa! Clearly you either don't really like Salsa or your lying that salsa tastes disgusting on corn flakes."</blockquote>