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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6600224" data-attributes="member: 42582">Just to be clear - you're surprised that people who play 4e respond negatively to being told they are munckins who can't think outside of the box and are just skirmish players who like idiotic metagame mechanics?Here are some highlights of your opening post in this thread:In response I linked to some actual play reports.I have a fighter in my game who is Thor - strong, durable, has a throwing hammer that returns - and who is also fast (Mighty Sprint, multiple powers that allow him to move as part of his attack, etc). That refutes your claims about what can and can't be done in terms of build and PC capabilities. Have you acknowledged that? No.I think the play reports also show that in my game the players do not "care for no other than reduce foes to 0 hp to "level up"." Have you acknowledged that - and that it might be true for other 4e players also? No.I think the player reports also show the sort of fantasy world with which 4e (by default) deals, namely, one in which gods and primordials are active forces, with whom the PCs are expected to engage (espcially at epic tier) and thereby change the world. Have you engaged at all with the sort of fantasy that default 4e supports? No.If your goal is to communicate that you don't like 4e, you've succeeded.If your goal is to express contempt for 4e payers, you've succeeded in that too.If your goal is to discuss how and why it is that 4e appeals to some RPGers who actually play it and post on these forums about it, well you've failed utterly at that.</blockquote>

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